How was the Vendor At Nats?

[GodTrainer]

Of course, but also remember that many of the complainers in this thread are complaining in those threads too.

Nowhere near the 300 complaints suggested in this thread.

took that into consideration.

300 was an estimate.

idk, 15pages is quite long....

while yes, your right, its probably not 300, but come on? do we really need to count?

how many is enough? 20? 40? 100? 200?

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No, you were spouting hearsay and opinion. You didn't have a problem with a female cashier. Others were talking about a specific individual, you were speculating and exaggerating.



lol? How is that a threat? I'm not involved at all. I am stating a fact- size doesn't matter. Posting you are 300+ pounds is stupid.


Don't know why you put "bad guy" in quotes. You're probably a great guy. I've never met you. I can't judge your character. Most people who play this game, and most people who volunteer with this game are very nice people, and I am sure you are one of those nice people.



Duh? I never said you were? I never said shooting someone was every justified? I stated that trying to use force on the wrong individual could backfire.



This woman who SUPPOSEDLY yells and intimidates kids. You're reacting based on hearsay and speculation and second-hand accounts. You have no room to make any judgment or comments.

I am defending this person not to be judged by people who weren't there lol.

I have nothing against you. I'm just saying we should not be so hasty to cast stones when many of us were not there, or did not receive first-hand negative accounts. I apologize if I came off as mean or snide. I was just trying to make a point that violence on any level is a bad idea and only comes off negatively, and can usually have really bad ramifications.


Why would I say trying to assault someone is dumb, when size is normally irrelevant? I don't know, because it's true?
Am I self-conscious? Of what? I am 5'11'', 180 pounds. Great shape, 21 years old, I am definitely not self-conscious.

I understand you feel attacked and feel the need to attack me in snide little ways, by saying I really DO need law school (anyone who wants to practice law needs to go to law school... duh), and that I am self-conscious or pick on people- but let's cut it out now.

fine ryan, you get the last word. I'm done on this tread after this.

I just hope we can meet someday to discuss this in person :thumb:

 

[ryanvergel]

took that into consideration.

300 was an estimate.

idk, 15pages is quite long....

while yes, your right, its probably not 300, but come on? do we really need to count?

how many is enough? 20? 40? 100? 200?

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fine ryan, you get the last word. I'm done on this tread after this.

I just hope we can meet someday to discuss this in person :thumb:

Me too. I love looking a guy in the eyes and saying he has no right to judge another person's actions based on hearsay and second-hand stories, and that attempting to physically assault or intimidate someone is nothing short of barbaric and idiotic.

I am not afraid to speak my mind and say how I feel to anyone- in real life or on the internet. If you are wrong, I will tell you to your face. Ask anyone who knows me. You think I can't sense your hint of threat? Handle it, in person, thumbs up, wink? It's not hard to find me in person.

Hi, you're Ryan Vergel, right? I'm GodTrainer. The guy who was casting stones at a person for actions I heard they did from a secondhand source. The guy who is continually resorting to physical intimidation to resolve issues. I am that guy.

I'll shake your hand and say hi :biggrin:

I'm not looking for a last word. I don't care how this resolves. I have no allegiance to Gathering Ground or any person here. I am just saying that your post was really wrong at certain spots. You were talking about being obviously physically intimidating and saying hos rude and bad another person was when YOU WERE NOT THERE. Stop being so judgmental- that is my argument. You don't have to get all offended just because you were called out for being entirely judgmental and out of line.

 

[tehmoe]

6/23/09
If they don't rectify the situation, go higher. Any successful business will have one person who will eventually understand that it's just never in their interest to lose a customer. This is a business, guys. Small business owners depend on a particular group of customers. You don't think the owner or manager would want everyone to be satisfied? Give the like, 3 people working 11 hours a day for 5 days for hundreds of customers a little leeway. At least to the people who did not directly have a problem with them. Only post YOUR experiences with them. Hearsay does nothing.

i lol'd when i read this post, now i wasnt at nats per say to say anything at all about the vendor, however, i've worked in both small businesses(card shops/gas stations/small groccery stores) and corporate businesses like target/walmart.

i like how you say go higher and higher until someone understands... yeah small busniess ... the owner is as high as your gonna get and as from what i been readin it looks like the owner was high for half of the things he has done to his customers(per say of what i read) b/c for someone who would want to keep customers/wanting to stay as only vendor for nats/etc he didnt look like he was trying to please his customers very much at all and which is true for many small businesses who think/know they're the only ones around so you take it or leave it and in which many sad cases ended up being they took it b/c they had no choices. in fact many small businesses run their operation like this which is smart and dumb at the same time. good b/c it saves the business money/headache bad b/c customers hate you now. and as far as the owner caring, since the owner knows he is monopolozing the area he doesnt give a rats about how you feel about the service quality b/c as said before its take it or leave it.

as for giving leeway... dealing with customers is your line of work and should always have a priority of making your customers happy even if your having the worst day/have a headache/hungover etc day of your life... there isnt an excuse for your actions regardless, how does the customer know you've been having a bad day? all they know is hey i need that uxie can i please buy it? or hey would you please look at my cool 1st edition base set and tell how much you would give me for it? thats all tht is going through their heads and as well should be considering the moment.

work 1 week in target the week before xmas in which case your dealing with not 100's a day but near to over 1000+ people in a matter of 6-10 hour shifts if not longer depending. all of them, although most were not children, were acting like children in which case may or may not be compareable to what they went through but i assure you its not piece of pie when you get angry pregnant soccer moms who are hormonally challenged yelling at you b/c mario galaxy isnt available in the PS3...(i work electronics...)


nothing against GG(gathering grounds) and i do understand that they may have had it rough, but thats what happens when you deal with customer service. May they do better in the future years.

 

[homeofmew]

The PROS:
I got rid of 15000+ cards quite easily (mostly commons and uncommons) for almost $400. (15000 x $.02 = $300).

The Cons:
The line for selling took forever to get through Day 1.
Uxie going from $5 day 1 from $20 Day 3 (know about the cards a little bit would help)
Offering $5 For Victory Medal- now I understand it isn't that going for that much on Ebay, but they were selling it in the window for $20 and they only had a few of them :/..

 

[PokePop]

Uxie going from $5 day 1 from $20 Day 3 (know about the cards a little bit would help)
.

So they should continue to sell Uxies at a way-below-market price even if they realize their mistake?
Sounds more like a pro: "I got a great deal on Uxies before they realized how cheap they were selling them!"

 

[tehmoe]

So they should continue to sell Uxies at a way-below-market price even if they realize their mistake?
Sounds more like a pro: "I got a great deal on Uxies before they realized how cheap they were selling them!"

lols... i mean comming from someone who needs them, i personally would have bought like 10 and then toldthem , you guys know they run for at least 15-25 dollars right? while i hold my new collection of uxies in hand lols.

 

[Pokeric]

I got the dics I was looking for for a while at a good price but they didn't pay too well for cards. I guess that's expected though

 

[homeofmew]

So they should continue to sell Uxies at a way-below-market price even if they realize their mistake?
Sounds more like a pro: "I got a great deal on Uxies before they realized how cheap they were selling them!"

I am not saying it was wrong changing the prices but it was pretty funny.
Especially them advertising they would sell at their site price. JIMO

PS it didn't phase me anyway I got Uxies for $5 day 1 anyway.

TINA

 

[Muk Man]

The prices I saw weren't any more than a regular card shop's prices- and consdering the location, promptness, and overhead- the prices were good IMO. Changing the prices on a daily basis shows that the owner is smart, capable, and pays attention to how his product moves. It's not price jacking; it's economics.

They likely started at 5 because that's all they could be sold for, or because there were a lot of them, or for an infinite number of other reasons.

When they started at 5...it was because they sat down and did the math. And their math said if we sell all these for 5 dollars we will make "this" much money... and that would be good/acceptable for us.

when they got there and realized that people are buying a lot of these, they said lets raise the price so we can make more money... Normally thats just good buisness and thats fine....but i feel IMHO! that because they were the ONLY vendor Raising prices is not fair to the consumer because there are NO alternatives... what they Should have done IMHO is said lets go get some more so that we don't sell out.

Yes once again it basc buisness and it's good for them...but BECAUSE they were the only vendor IMHO they should have set the prices going in, and Not defered...until the final day when they dropped all the prices to dump the extra product.


IMHO

 

[Gathering Ground]

When they started at 5...it was because they sat down and did the math. And their math said if we sell all these for 5 dollars we will make "this" much money... and that would be good/acceptable for us.

when they got there and realized that people are buying a lot of these, they said lets raise the price so we can make more money... Normally thats just good buisness and thats fine....but i feel IMHO! that because they were the ONLY vendor Raising prices is not fair to the consumer because there are NO alternatives... what they Should have done IMHO is said lets go get some more so that we don't sell out.

Yes once again it basc buisness and it's good for them...but BECAUSE they were the only vendor IMHO they should have set the prices going in, and Not defered...until the final day when they dropped all the prices to dump the extra product.


IMHO

Obviously this card was mispriced at $5 it had NOTHING to to with sitting down and doing math. We had thousands of cards to price and once it was caught it was corrected to a fair market price of $20.. So, what we are suppose to sit there and knowingly keep selling a card WAY under what they are worth because someone made a mistake? Just to Clarify - this IS the Legends Awakened Uxie #43 we are talking about and it's NOT price gouging, that is what they go for on Ebay - go check. It's also way under what they go for on our website as well as "other" sites.

Congrats to those of you who got it for $5 - that's a great deal!

 

[Avmozz]

this is the Rising Rivals Uxie #43 we are talking about and it's NOT price gouging, that is what they go for on Ebay - go check.

Congrats to those of you who got it for $5 - that's a great deal!

Maybe the Legends Awakened Uxie :wink:

:thumb:

 

[tehmoe]

Just to Clarify - this IS the Rising Rivals Uxie #43 we are talking about and it's NOT price gouging, that is what they go for on Ebay - go check.

this just proved about all the posts that said gathering ground/aka your business didnt know what they were talking about... and even to this day still dont know what they are talking about ... and it looks like you edited your post so you didnt even bother to correct the biggest mistake in your post...

 

[Qwachansey]

Just to Clarify - this IS the Rising Rivals Uxie #43 we are talking about and it's NOT price gouging, that is what they go for on Ebay - go check.

Wow! Where can I get this new Uxie?

 

[ryanvergel]

OMG A TYPO! Let's all jump on him!

he has the correct number, just wrong set. You guys have nothing better to do than to rail on him for typing the wrong set? he must know NOTHING of what he is talking about.

 

[Qwachansey]

OMG A TYPO! Let's all jump on him!

he has the correct number, just wrong set. You guys have nothing better to do than to rail on him for typing the wrong set? he must know NOTHING of what he is talking about.

My apologies, I seriously thought there was a Uxie I didn't know about.

 

[Jaeger]

Obviously this card was mispriced at $5 it had NOTHING to to with sitting down and doing math. We had thousands of cards to price and once it was caught it was corrected to a fair market price of $20.. So, what we are suppose to sit there and knowingly keep selling a card WAY under what they are worth because someone made a mistake? Just to Clarify - this IS the Rising Rivals Uxie #43 we are talking about and it's NOT price gouging, that is what they go for on Ebay - go check. It's also way under what they go for on our website as well as "other" sites.

Congrats to those of you who got it for $5 - that's a great deal!

I don't blame you at all for that, you made a mistake (obivously) and put the correct price on it. The things I didn't like were the $40 Dialga G X and $35 Ape, and $40 Luxray X when ebay prices had them at $25, $23, $25 Respectfully. That is price gouging.

 

[Avmozz]

That is price gouging.

In fact that is business!

 

[ryanvergel]

And if no one bought them for that price, he couldn't sell them at that price. People buy them for 40, so can you fault him for selling them at 40? It's same day shipping, lol, and you can sell your cards to make the purchase, too.

 

[PokePop]

this just proved about all the posts that said gathering ground/aka your business didnt know what they were talking about... and even to this day still dont know what they are talking about ... and it looks like you edited your post so you didnt even bother to correct the biggest mistake in your post...

I guess you've never, ever misspoke and said the wrong word ever in your life.

 

[tehmoe]

I guess you've never, ever misspoke and said the wrong word ever in your life.

nah, but what you say and what is written down are two different things, words spoken for the most part, can be taken back. things written down, however, are usually gonna stay.

to say no would be easily proven wrong through the example of written contracts vs spoken ones. you cant prove a spoken contract, but a written one will always be there for proof.

it's like aw man... i guess i misread that 5,000 for 5,000,000 and now my yearly salary is only 5k... its a good thing i signed that contract...

usually when i write and its to prove a point and a valid one at that i try my best to make sure that what i have written is correct.

god forbid i was trying to say something about religion and wrote something offensive when i wasn't trying to be.