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Island Hermit...Why aren't you playing it?

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Tagrineth said:
I'd argue that the inferior players are the ones that don't even try it, but merely go LOL IT ONLY DRAWS 2 SO IT SUX - like most of the people downplaying its potential.

But, hey, who am I to argue? I've only, you know, been playtesting it with my friends. Nevermind that I've had good results from it. Maybe you should try it some time? And don't just stick a token Hermit in a random junk deck that you just "happen" to end up discarding anyway for a Holon supporter... actually put some effort into USING it. See how it plays.

I'm done here, far as I'm concerned there's no use in going any farther with this.
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Why spend my time on a card that in deck theory is so bad when I can spend my time testing things that are good in theory?
What you do makes no sense. I wish I had the time to test out bad cards... but I don't.
 
Net gain isnt what matters, it's about filtering your hand/deck. There should almost always be a card in your hand that is deemed useless for the time being. I feel if you know your deck, then you should be able to make a correct call about what card you wont need in the long run. If you get screwed later for not having that card, then one of 2 things happened. 1. You obv dont know both your deck and the matchup well enough. 2. Your opponent dropped something beyond unexpected and out of the ordinary for the deck they are running.

Id much rather use a card that immediately gains me 3 cards from the deck to dig for the cards that win games. Seeing them in the prizes only allows you to stare at them. The more cards you draw, the better chances at getting the cards you want.

What happens if you flip over prize cards, and see a card you need NOW to advance yourself for a KO. All it does is sit there, allowing you to look at it. Where as you could have used another that drew 1 more to help dig for the other copy(s) of that card to further your progress in the game.

I also really dont like the fact that my opponent can see what are in my prizes. If it's a game breaking card for the current matchup, then your opponent knows you are down 1 of that card for the time being. They will definately play around it. What happens if it's a pokemon in a 1-1 tech line added to the deck to up your ability in the matchup you are currently facing? If it's a smart opponent, they will know by looking at your deck that it's a really good possibility of being a 1-1 as it may look somewhat out of place and techy for the type of deck it was put in. They will do all they can to not allow you to get that card, as they will know that their chance of winning will go down with it in play. I think there are just too many downfalls to your opponent being able to see your prize cards. And I cant fathom waiting to use it before I know Im going to get a KO. When I have a card that draws, I want to use it to dig for more cards. I dont want to wait to use it, that completely ruins the use of card advantage.
 
island hermit i thought was bad
then i played aaron curray with it last sunday and it actually helped him
it nets you a +1 card advantage, but it also gets you to be able to see your prizes
is it a card you need? then get it
dont need it? then get another one
either way, you get a card advantage
i personally cant find room for it, but it is a good card
 
ryanvergel said:
Why spend my time on a card that in deck theory is so bad when I can spend my time testing things that are good in theory?
What you do makes no sense. I wish I had the time to test out bad cards... but I don't.
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The thing is, they are both theorys. Until you put your theory into action and either prove it or disprove it, all it is is a collection of words. And if that next card that you would've drawn that would've won you the game instead of lose (how often does that happen?? Far less then having 1 of your 6 prizes being a good one.), then I guess you can say that a tv reporter would've been better then your hermit. I seriously doubt that will happen more often then drawing a bad prize/losing because you discarded an energy or something earlier in the game.
 
I love how all these people almost sound like they actually think they're presenting an argument. Too bad the main assumption behind their reasoning is that Hermit is a bad card.

Wait, no, I don't love it. Logical thought is my joy. But it does amuse me in this case.
 
Articjedi said:
Or you realize it's a bad theory and it's not worth wasting precious testing time with.
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And I remember all those Blasty EXs being binder bound for some time before LBS was "created/discovered"!!!

How many people played Manny EX before Mew EX was used with it?

Rocket's Admin wasnt widely used when it first came out. By the end of the format, most decks ran it!

Hindsight is 20/20........foresight can be laughed at sometimes.

Keith
 
Lawman said:
And I remember all those Blasty EXs being binder bound for some time before LBS was "created/discovered"!!!

How many people played Manny EX before Mew EX was used with it?

Rocket's Admin wasnt widely used when it first came out. By the end of the format, most decks ran it!

Hindsight is 20/20........foresight can be laughed at sometimes.

Keith
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I love you.
 
Lawman said:
And I remember all those Blasty EXs being binder bound for some time before LBS was "created/discovered"!!!

How many people played Manny EX before Mew EX was used with it?

Rocket's Admin wasnt widely used when it first came out. By the end of the format, most decks ran it!

Hindsight is 20/20........foresight can be laughed at sometimes.

Keith
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Dont forget Lugia EX, was worthless for a little while, along with steelix ex. imagine what people thought about nidoqueen before it won worlds. or remember team magma.
 
Muk Man said:
bills shuffle 1 then draw 3.... -1+3=2 cards
TV reporter draw 3 discard 1... 3-1=[2 cards
holon adventurer discard 1 draw 3(4) -1+3(4)=2(3) cards
request... draw 1 then if no stage 2 draw 2 more...
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ROFL , you wrote this at the top of the thread and no one listened. Give it up.. Hermit is a terrible card and no one should play it.


EDIT That was the best arguement you had. And it is a mediocre one at best.(The arguement .... Hermit is still horrible)
 
Well, how about you actually present an argument yourself? Saying it suxs without any proof besides card difference (again, see previous posts) is not an argument at all.
 
There doesn't need to be an debate about why it is not a top calibur card ( even a low calibur one actually). Sure it shows you your prizes , it alos give you ONE LESS card to look it. It cannot be searched with trans (the most popular engine in pokemon). I would rather look at 3 cards and net 2 than just look at 2 in general , and I think any top quality player would agree.
 
*Too lazy to read thread, just going to give own input :tongue: *

For some decks, Island Hermit is helpful. For example, if you run a 1-0-1 tech line and half of it is prized, but you need it for a gurantee win in a game, how do you draw it? Shooting blind? Flip over 2, now its either in one of those 2 or one of the other 4. That makes it a 25% shot. Use another one. If you still haven't found it, you're sitting on a 50% shot. If you STILL can't draw that prize, then you KNOW where it is, regardless.

Is it the best draw? Never. Holon Engine and Mary's, etc. work better. However, it is so-so. And for the younger players/newer players, it works great for them. Flip over 2 prizes, draw 2 cards. Anybody can do that if they are able to play.
 
Seriously, how can you people even make an argument for Island Hermit being better than other draw in the format.

It's so obvious that it's worse than Holon Adventurer, TV Reporter, Mary's Request etc.

It's like trying to make an argument for Pocket 2s being better than Pocket Aces. The arguement is retarded and makes no sense whatsoever.
 
higumaotoshi said:
Seriously, how can you people even make an argument for Island Hermit being better than other draw in the format.

It's so obvious that it's worse than Holon Adventurer, TV Reporter, Mary's Request etc.

It's like trying to make an argument for Pocket 2s being better than Pocket Aces. The arguement is retarded and makes no sense whatsoever.
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Have you ever playtested Island Hermit?

Seriously. Have you?

Ah, I didn't think so. K.
 
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