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Mewtwo, Darkrai, Rayqauza EX ALL to be tin Promos in Fall

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If they are really coming out in tins - I think the prices will fall a bit not as much as people think. (well until they come out)
because they do not come to fall, meaning you still have to get them the non tin way for nats and worlds.


Another thing it is odd that these sources, aka PokeBeach/ where ever else does not have pictures.
Other than that I can see these cards being tins.

Why? because it makes scene. Pokemon has made hype cards promos before. (Like Uxie, Claydol, Zekrom Ex, Reshiram Ex)
 
If they are really coming out in tins - I think the prices will fall a bit not as much as people think. (well until they come out)
because they do not come to fall, meaning you still have to get them the non tin way for nats and worlds.


Another thing it is odd that these sources, aka PokeBeach/ where ever else does not have pictures.
Other than that I can see these cards being tins.

Why? because it makes scene. Pokemon has made hype cards promos before. (Like Uxie, Claydol, Zekrom Ex, Reshiram Ex)


Don't forget about Yanmega Prime's reprint.
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If they are really coming out in tins - I think the prices will fall a bit not as much as people think. (well until they come out)
because they do not come to fall, meaning you still have to get them the non tin way for nats and worlds.


Another thing it is odd that these sources, aka PokeBeach/ where ever else does not have pictures.
Other than that I can see these cards being tins.

Why? because it makes sense. Pokemon has made hype cards promos before. (Like Uxie, Claydol, Zekrom Ex, Reshiram Ex)

Not to mention TPCi stands to make a boatload of cash off these. Why let someone else make all the money off the secondary market for Mewtwo/Darkrai/Rayquaza when TPCi could be making it themselves. Boosters are going to sell regardless (maybe not as much at card shops, but I at Big Box stores for sure), so why not Tin 3 of the biggest chaser cards at the moment?
 
Not to mention TPCi stands to make a boatload of cash off these. Why let someone else make all the money off the secondary market for Mewtwo/Darkrai/Rayquaza when TPCi could be making it themselves. Boosters are going to sell regardless (maybe not as much at card shops, but I at Big Box stores for sure), so why not Tin 3 of the biggest chaser cards at the moment?

This. They make no money off the secondary market. Most people are going to be buying the new set rather than ND or DE anyway.
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releasing the biggest chase cards in tins means there's almost no reason to buy ND or DE booster packs anymore
 
Not to mention TPCi stands to make a boatload of cash off these. Why let someone else make all the money off the secondary market for Mewtwo/Darkrai/Rayquaza when TPCi could be making it themselves. Boosters are going to sell regardless (maybe not as much at card shops, but I at Big Box stores for sure), so why not Tin 3 of the biggest chaser cards at the moment?

I would Agree however, like I said "Cash Cards" have become promos/tins later. I remember at the NV pre release, many people wanted flip victini and I was able to sell off a few for 15 each (the non full art*) the day of the release. I also sold a Full art N for $40 on ebay the weekend of the release (and N isn't even a promo).

Yamega prime is also a great example. Future tins (fall) will obviously have exes from existing or previous sets.

It would be funny in the end if it's something like kyogre/groudon. but then again whoever in marketing has to make it decent so it sells. Maybe Tornadous/ Raikou?
But pokemon and their " sets of 2 or 3 thing" [Like Reshi/Zekrom and Palkia/Dialga (also previous tins) ]

Kyogre/Groudon makes a ton more scene as tins btw.
But Pokemon has made weird things in boxes like the Landurous promo, and the Houndoom Prime Promo. (Umbreon and Espeon too but they kinda go together.)
 
releasing the biggest chase cards in tins means there's almost no reason to buy ND or DE booster packs anymore
Understand something about Pokemon's business model:

Almost all of their sales of booster packs comes from impulse buys at departments stores from kids whining to their parents to buy them a pack or 2.

Players make up for a very small percentage of booster sales.

As such, releasing chase cards in tins can actually increase sales revenue from players because players will buy the tins.
 
Any player serious about the TCG would've bought all the cards they needed from the secondary market or would've bought sufficient amount of booster packs to obtain their goal. This usually happens within the first month of sales so they can test their new cards out in the latest tournaments. As a result, the bulk of any booster sales to players is already completed and PTCi have little money left to make of players. Hence they introduce tins with extremely playable cards and make more profit again.
 
Understand something about Pokemon's business model:

Almost all of their sales of booster packs comes from impulse buys at departments stores from kids whining to their parents to buy them a pack or 2.

Players make up for a very small percentage of booster sales.

As such, releasing chase cards in tins can actually increase sales revenue from players because players will buy the tins.

Not to mention that players would still be buying the Dark Explorers/Next Destinies boosters...they would just be inside the tins...which is actually good for Pokemon, as they can force players to buy $16-20 worth of produce as the impulse buy instead of just 2 packs or $8 or whatever it works out to.
 
Understand something about Pokemon's business model:

Almost all of their sales of booster packs comes from impulse buys at departments stores from kids whining to their parents to buy them a pack or 2.

Players make up for a very small percentage of booster sales.

As such, releasing chase cards in tins can actually increase sales revenue from players because players will buy the tins.

This is the most silly arguement, it makes no sense.

How can you possibly seperate players pruchase spending from non player purchase spending? There is not any way to do so. When I spend $100.00 bucks for the family to attened a prerelease that counts as a player purchase, but when my daughter gets me to buy her a Tin and 4 packs at the local Target for $30.00 then that money is a non player purchase?

What about when we go to the mall and we purchase Packs from the Pokemon Center store, is that spending Player money or non Player money?
 
''Player money'' = money spent by players.

''non player money'' = money spent by people who are not players.

The latter is much more common in the primary market. If your entire family plays then you have spent ''player money'' in each scenario.
 
This is the most silly arguement, it makes no sense.

How can you possibly seperate players pruchase spending from non player purchase spending? There is not any way to do so. When I spend $100.00 bucks for the family to attened a prerelease that counts as a player purchase, but when my daughter gets me to buy her a Tin and 4 packs at the local Target for $30.00 then that money is a non player purchase?

What about when we go to the mall and we purchase Packs from the Pokemon Center store, is that spending Player money or non Player money?

Sales at big box stores so grossly outnumber sales at every other retail outlet combined (including online outlets), and the relative lack of tournament participation compared to the other two major TCGs, combine to show that conclusion.
 
While I don't like the term "player purchase" which JPS has introduced it is still possible for TPCi to work out if players are a big part of their market or not. Take total sales and divide by number of players. TPCi have both figures. Then look at how sane that per player figure actually is. I'd bet that the figure calculated this way comes to many many boxes of product per player from which you have to conclude that the majority of sales are to non-players.

I prefer "mass market" as a description for where pokemon tcg sells most product, and "Hobby" for where pokemon needs to sell much more to guarantee the future for real life organised play.
 
I don't have the cash. I also have just awful luck opening packs as of late (96 Next Destinies, no Mewtwos, mostly Kyurems).

So you spent money on 96 booster packs, which comes to almost $300 in you consider $3 per pack which is cheap, but 'you don't have the cash?'. Seems to me more like you're not a smart buyer and like to whine alot.

Love the Pokemon fansites drama.
 
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