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Should Pokemon Catcher Be Made Into a League Promo?

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What people need to understand is the difference in the need and the want. You need Pokemon catcher to play this format competitively. You however DONT need Gold Pokemon Catcher. The Golden Catcher is a want. Pokemon Catcher is not a luxury good. Pokemon Catcher is like a car. You need Catcher as much as you need a car. Golden Pokemon Catcher is a luxury good for those who want 'status'. Golden Catcher is like having a Ferrari. They both do the same as their cheaper counterparts but are for those who can 'afford' them.

I like your analogy, but will try to use it against you for a moment: you only "need" a car if you are entering a car race. Maybe you want a car so it's convenient to get to work and go to the mall and buy groceries, but then you have to take on the burden of getting a driver's license and expense of paying for insurance. The people that can't afford to do that take public transportation.

The car race and need for a car is optional. So is playing Pokémon competitively.


The problem with catcher is you can no longer buy the set they come in. I have not found a store here that sells them anymore. This causes catchers price to inflate. They are almost 20 buck for a non foil version of the card. Thats insane and I think the card needs to be reprinted.

Well, there is eBay...lots of availability there. Seems silly to me to keep buying older packs to try and pull a Catcher. But to your point everyone would support a reprint in an upcoming set, as it benefits TPC also.
 
A reprint in an upcoming set will affect its rotation status. A reprint in a collection, boxed set, or league promo would not. That said, from the development strategy we're seeing from Japan right now, I would be surprised if we didn't get a Catcher reprint in the next core set. It may be an Ace Spec, however. If it is, we'll see another pokemon with a lure Ability within the next 2 or 3 Japanese sets. :)

From a marketing perspective, if Pokemon wants to focus on the North American market by retaking the Junior demographic like in Japan, Catcher needs to be a promo. If they don't care, they should completely change their accessibility strategy and go back to packs-only, raising the secondary market prices and focusing only on Masters. Because the Japanese market strategy is being enforced on TPCi right now, and they're really skirting the edge of it (I still say their product manager is going to be wearing a barrel by next year and major changes will come again). I'd like to see them go towards the Japanese model and try to attract more players.

I think the best analogy for going to the packs-only, high price model is Yugioh, and that failed them. The other analogy I'd use is Games Workshop, and they're also bombing horribly. I can't remember the last time they turned a quarterly profit; I haven't been following them in the last couple of years, but it sure doesn't LOOK like they turned it around, what with stores closing, etc.

We're in a depression, and Pokemon is an expense parents are going to cut quickly. It's not going to affect Masters players that considerably either way, but the number of Juniors and Seniors in the game and buying packs - if maybe in smaller quantities each - will really go up.
 
I like your analogy, but will try to use it against you for a moment: you only "need" a car if you are entering a car race. Maybe you want a car so it's convenient to get to work and go to the mall and buy groceries, but then you have to take on the burden of getting a driver's license and expense of paying for insurance. The people that can't afford to do that take public transportation.

The car race and need for a car is optional. So is playing Pokémon competitively.




Well, there is eBay...lots of availability there. Seems silly to me to keep buying older packs to try and pull a Catcher. But to your point everyone would support a reprint in an upcoming set, as it benefits TPC also.

Well, everything is something that can be a want to a point but if you want to be a race car driver, then you need a car so you can do your job. You also need access to the best car you can get so you can win. The race car job would be equal to the golden catcher. In Pokemon, if you want to be competitive, then you need catcher but you don't need the gold catcher.

I can understand if there were only Gold Catcher and not a normal version of it, like the SR Rayquaza. The good thing about that is the SR Rayquaza did not affect the game on such a large scale that Catcher did.

I also do buy singles but when I feel they are worth it. I don't think its worth it to spend 18 bucks each on a uncommon card. I'd rather put the money to Full Art Ns or maybe the Gold Catcher if I'm going to spend big. The problem is the accessibility to catcher. Pokemon Catcher is a common card and should be treated as such. it should not be treated like a UR or SR. A uncommon should not be one of the most expensive cards in the game. I know someone will say rarity does not matter but the effect does but I think it should matter. As a uncommon card, there card needs to be reprinted.
 
18 bucks for Catchers is an insane mark-up from trade value or even LGS price. I still have no difficulty buying them at 10 when I help new players. Anyone trying to charge 18 (or anything more than about 12-13) is just irrelevant and doesn't want to make sales. :)
 
Well, everything is something that can be a want to a point but if you want to be a race car driver, then you need a car so you can do your job. You also need access to the best car you can get so you can win. The race car job would be equal to the golden catcher. In Pokemon, if you want to be competitive, then you need catcher but you don't need the gold catcher.

I can understand if there were only Gold Catcher and not a normal version of it, like the SR Rayquaza. The good thing about that is the SR Rayquaza did not affect the game on such a large scale that Catcher did.

I also do buy singles but when I feel they are worth it. I don't think its worth it to spend 18 bucks each on a uncommon card. I'd rather put the money to Full Art Ns or maybe the Gold Catcher if I'm going to spend big. The problem is the accessibility to catcher. Pokemon Catcher is a common card and should be treated as such. it should not be treated like a UR or SR. A uncommon should not be one of the most expensive cards in the game. I know someone will say rarity does not matter but the effect does but I think it should matter. As a uncommon card, there card needs to be reprinted.

That's how the secondary market works. Demand, playability. It's a card game, what do you expect?
Anywhere you're attempting to buy an $18 catcher from is a rip-off, you can get them on eBay for $12-14. Considering they, if you bought them when they were, you know, released, you'd use them all last season, all this season, and most likely all of next season as well. $40 ish for a set of staples you'll be using for years isn't ridiculous.
 
That's how the secondary market works. Demand, playability. It's a card game, what do you expect?
Anywhere you're attempting to buy an $18 catcher from is a rip-off, you can get them on eBay for $12-14. Considering they, if you bought them when they were, you know, released, you'd use them all last season, all this season, and most likely all of next season as well. $40 ish for a set of staples you'll be using for years isn't ridiculous.

The bolded part: They aren't ripping anyone off! Here is what they have, here is the price, you decide. How is that ripping off? Free market in getting what you think it is worth.

I wish everyone had catchers but they don't and I can't see for the foreseeable future that they will be a league promo considering how league prizes have changed.

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Great job at not making any valid point towards your argument.

How so? My point was not everyone can afford to drop 10+ on a single card. T&T sells them for 18, not including shipping. Thats 77 bucks with 5 for added shipping. Ebay is around the same. You may catch a good deal on them where you spend 40, but you make it for it with shipping. Many players also value their cards based off them. I don't own anything they want for trade because I don't have money to put into the game so I risk with booster packs.

I think I made my point. The set the card comes in is out of print or hard to come by. The only other set that has it is DEX as a SR. I'm quite frankly tired of people saying its affordable because its not. If it is to you then you can buy me a play set because you can afford it.

Ebay is a free market most of the time, retailers are not.
 
How so? My point was not everyone can afford to drop 10+ on a single card. T&T sells them for 18, not including shipping. Thats 77 bucks with 5 for added shipping. Ebay is around the same.

Ebay isn't "around the same." 18+ shipping is outrageous. They are $12 Buy it Now with free shipping, why don't you go take a look?

I don't own anything they want for trade because I don't have money to put into the game so I risk with booster packs.
Hey, there's your number one problem.
"I don't have the money to spend on catchers."
"I waste my money risking it with boosters."
Think about how much you spend on boosters trying to get what you need, that's probably enough to get you a Catcher playset.

I think I made my point. The set the card comes in is out of print or hard to come by. The only other set that has it is DEX as a SR. I'm quite frankly tired of people saying its affordable because its not. If it is to you then you can buy me a play set because you can afford it.

This card game is pretty affordable, and that's coming from someone who definitely doesn't have a lot of money. I'm quite frankly tired about people whining about the price of cards. Don't play competitively if you don't want to spend the money.
I generally understand not wanting to drop $180 on three Mewtwo when they first came out so you could play CMT at states, but catchers will last you for multiple seasons and is not unaffordable.
 
I take offense to that. I do have a job and make money. Its hard to pay bills and do other stuff you need to do when you make less then 500 bucks a month. Buying Pokemon Catchers is the less of my worries. Again, not everyone can afford to drop money like that.

I make about the same. My pay check varies week to week depending on how many hours i get. You know what I do when I'm not making a whole bunch of money? I stop buying cards.

It's not that hard. OTOH, when i'm up a lot, like a 48 hour workweek, i'll parrot away some extra funding to buy staples at a later date. Everyone knew catcher would be a staple when it came out. It's not like the card was featured in some rogue deck and suddenly became BCIF.
 
I also do buy singles but when I feel they are worth it. I don't think its worth it to spend 18 bucks each on a uncommon card. I'd rather put the money to Full Art Ns or maybe the Gold Catcher if I'm going to spend big.

So, if you have money, you choose to spend it on cards other than Catcher. That's fine - it's personal choice. But you can't then complain that they don't make Catcher cheap for you so you can buy that as well.

There's no 'right' to expect a card to sell at a certain price. That price is set by the market. (Catcher was printed no more rare than Recycle or Crushing Hammer). If you choose to prioritise a shiny FA (that you can buy in a normal version for pennies) over staple competitive cards, then don't blame Pokemon for the consequences.
 
So let's assume that I want to buy some Pokemon Catcher. Let's also assume that instead of buying 4 single Pokemon Catchers for around $12 a piece on eBay, I decide to spend money on Emerging Powers booster packs to try to get lucky and rip some Pokemon Catchers from those booster backs. Let's further assume that instead of spending money on Pokemon Catcher (a staple that I would need to play competitively), I would rather spend my money on full art cards when there are much cheaper alternatives to those full art cards easily available.

I would be pretty moronic.
 
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