Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

States and rogues

it's not you,

i just don't think that a lot of the ideas people have mentioned would work, and just because they're original doesn't mean they're good

i feel confident with my gallade list for 1 states, and i want to work on a couple rogues to chose for the second states
 
a counter for gardy gallade and magmorter is simple. the trick is to make it beat everything else.
Magmorter loses to empoleon and gardy loses to bannet so empoleon banette with some sort of tech support holons wp and psy energy for free retreat and to stop sonic cut cessation crystal and bam simple counter.
but what about blissey, what about lucario, how does it handle other decks . thats where knowing your metagame comes in.
If you read the report on how queendom was built you will see how you should build your decks.
 
Muk Man said:
a counter for gardy gallade and magmorter is simple. the trick is to make it beat everything else.
Magmorter loses to empoleon and gardy loses to bannet so empoleon banette with some sort of tech support holons wp and psy energy for free retreat and to stop sonic cut cessation crystal and bam simple counter.
but what about blissey, what about lucario, how does it handle other decks . thats where knowing your metagame comes in.
If you read the report on how queendom was built you will see how you should build your decks.
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That's the point, what deck beats EVERYTHING? Well, ATM Gardy/Gallade is doing a pretty good job.

Something always loses to something. Even Gallade loses. Do you want to know what to? Itself.

So anyone will skill, smarts, and a Gardy/Gallade deck has it made, unless some one runs a counter (Points to Muk Man.) but then they lose to the others (Stops pointing at Muk Man.). Gardy/Gallade is King of the hill ATM.
 
I agree with both TODDakaESTEBAN and Muk Man.

People do assume to much that just because they made a deck that is a "rogue" deck that it will do well, but there is a reason why G&G and Magmortor have been so dominant. The problem with creating a true "Rogue" deck is that you have to be able to handle pretty much everything and not just the two most popular decks in the format.

I think I know what this x2 deck is about but I wont say anything. Everyone has different play styles but I think I can guess some of the things that the deck includes.

For me the most important thing is to have fun. I am bringing the same deck with me to states that I brought to cities. It only won half of the games I played and I don't really think it will do much better then that at States but I like the deck and it definitely catches people off guard. Sometimes it pays to see the faces of people when my Meganium poisons, burns, and paralyzes (takes some really good coin flips to happen but it does sometimes) their Magmortor Lv.X. And then their Magmortor Lv.X eventually dies because of burn after a grass pokemon burnt a fire pokemon. :lol:
 
There have been a few threads on this site about Flygon ex pk...he may do well. I don't know about winning, but he might see some play. Perhaps some Feraligatrδ variant?
 
Hey, Muk man! I posted a deck idea for Empoleon-banette about 2 weeks ago on here, I ran it! I like it, I aint talking junk, but I am just saying that was my idea! Maybe I should try a stage 1 water to run with Bannette!:thumb:
 
mca3 said:
Hey, Muk man! I posted a deck idea for Empoleon-banette about 2 weeks ago on here, I ran it! I like it, I aint talking junk, but I am just saying that was my idea! Maybe I should try a stage 1 water to run with Bannette!:thumb:
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Octillery or Gyrados:thumb:

Acutally, i think Gyrados might also do okay at states:biggrin:
 
G&G and Fire TRUK will win the most, I'll tell you that. There's a reason why they are considered the #1 decks in the format. The only other good card that dosen't see too much play is Blissey, yet Gallade kills it. Banette would be good, except that it dosen't stand a chance against Fire TRUK. Gyrados and Octillery are both fine choices, but G&G is better. I have posted a thread on Altaria GE, but again, Fire TRUK beats it. Acually, that matchup may be more even then I said, but that's not the point. The point is is that all the best cards are either already played, or are countered by them.
 
Arceus999 said:
G&G and Fire TRUK will win the most, I'll tell you that. There's a reason why they are considered the #1 decks in the format. The only other good card that dosen't see too much play is Blissey, yet Gallade kills it. Banette would be good, except that it dosen't stand a chance against Fire TRUK. Gyrados and Octillery are both fine choices, but G&G is better. I have posted a thread on Altaria GE, but again, Fire TRUK beats it. Acually, that matchup may be more even then I said, but that's not the point. The point is is that all the best cards are either already played, or are countered by them.
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Best Cards? Maybe...Best Combos? No way!
 
Yes, well, I said best cards. Also, will these combos be able to stand up to G&G or Fire TRUK? Because we've pretty much already took out the best cards... even I, who is constntly looking for good, rogue cards, have to admit that the best decks are G&G and Fire TRUK.
 
BANGINBOX said:
I am NOT claiming that I have cornered the metagame. I do not believe its possible at this point. I am saying that I have found an old combo that works amazingly well in todays format.

You will all be surprised when you see what deck I choose to play. I will NOT go undefeated. I will lose games like everyone else. All I can hope for is that I can make an impact on the metagame, cause it REALLY needs it.
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If theres anyone that can remember an old combo that used to work, I can remember Blaziken RS + Delcatty RS! That was one of the tier decks out their. The deck played 4-2-3-2 Blaziken, 3-3 Delcatty, 4 Dusparce, and 1-2 Rayquaza ex. Some versions before teched in Ampharos or Team Aquas Manetric.

If you compared that strategy to todays format. Pachy = Dunsparce, Magmortor = Rayquaza ex, Blaziken = Blaziken w/ 1 or 2 Blaziken GE teched in, Delcatty = Delcatty and you also tech in a Delcatty ex. Or even instead of Magmortor you could probably do Arcanine SW just becuz the new blaziken can snipe cheap prizes. While RK9 gets u prizes and delcatty ex can close out the match with 120+ damage.

Other then an old combo workin well I think what I mentioned is what Mr. Ballard is playing. Not to mention this deck has 50-50 vs. everything or better. So yea and also their is some cards I didnt mention which you could tech in this deck. Be creative people! :cool:
 
mca3 said:
I am just saying that was my idea!
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Thought of it first is awful hard to prove in most cases. We believe James as much as you, right?

Look, this is why you mail yourself your manuscript or register it formally to HELP you prove copyright on a work of fiction. It isn't required, but you can end up in an unprovable argument, unless you do.

Now, no one is going to post their exact list in advance on a public forum (almost no one) to prove they thought of it first. So what is the Pokemon TCG equivalent of copyright?

You can say, I won with this first, if you pub your list. You can say, I was the first to win with this combo, if you played it at a tourney. That we can check.

"My idea?" Not to pick on you, but I see this all the time (years) here. A totally unique idea is awfully rare, and even harder to prove that you thought of it first. I recommend, "I thought of that, too". Or, "I was the first to win" with X. See, you could still be the first to win States with EmpBan.
 
GinoLombardi21 said:
If theres anyone that can remember an old combo that used to work, I can remember Blaziken RS + Delcatty RS! That was one of the tier decks out their. The deck played 4-2-3-2 Blaziken, 3-3 Delcatty, 4 Dusparce, and 1-2 Rayquaza ex. Some versions before teched in Ampharos or Team Aquas Manetric.

If you compared that strategy to todays format. Pachy = Dunsparce, Magmortor = Rayquaza ex, Blaziken = Blaziken w/ 1 or 2 Blaziken GE teched in, Delcatty = Delcatty and you also tech in a Delcatty ex. Or even instead of Magmortor you could probably do Arcanine SW just becuz the new blaziken can snipe cheap prizes. While RK9 gets u prizes and delcatty ex can close out the match with 120+ damage.

Other then an old combo workin well I think what I mentioned is what Mr. Ballard is playing. Not to mention this deck has 50-50 vs. everything or better. So yea and also their is some cards I didnt mention which you could tech in this deck. Be creative people! :cool:
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Didn't he say it was like Destiny.....
 
well here is another freebie from muk man another awesom gardy gallade counter.
Pelliper from the pop set resistence to fighting and a pokebody that takes -30 from all stage 2's
so gallade would have to flip 4 prizes to kill it.(if there is a dre attached) gardy would need 3 hits to ko it, add the fact it's delta so you have holon support and you have a possible deck.


I built two gardy gallade counters for cities but ninetails was the better of the two so thats why i ran it, but yes there are plenty of ways around it. Just top trying to One shot everything and you will find lots of good decks.

just cause you dont one shot a whole deck doesn't mean you cant beat it. all you have to do to win is take more prizes. sure gardy will flip 4 prizes to kill 1 pelliper, but what will the do about the 2nd 3rd 4th 5th and 6th prize? you just keep smacking them for 50 damage then omastar bring down their whole bench for 3-4 prizes. then their whole gardy line is in the discard, you will sweep after that. see that's how you build decks plus omastar is a water type so there's a mag counter as well
 
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they would have to evolve their whole bench. and then still not take a shot from peliper. and thats at the risk of their gardy lv X plus i ran it with claydol from HP so i usually just spread the damage early then activated scramble and thats how i put all the damage on them. add the 10 to the fossil then just discard it. so if hey did get to bring down once they couldn't do it twice... looking back i think nosepass would be a better choice so i can deal with the absol and ferret starts. then just do 10 to the ralts. Hey there's another idea on how to make the deck better.
 
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