Chairman Kaga
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You can't possibly make a serious comparison between Nationals and Worlds. Most of the Worlds participants are coming from outside the US to begin with. And the LCQ is a privilege, not a right.
You completely ignored my post. I can't imagine why you would do that. Maybe it's because I actually discredited several of your arguments?You can't possibly make a serious comparison between Nationals and Worlds. Most of the Worlds participants are coming from outside the US to begin with. And the LCQ is a privilege, not a right.
St. Louis is the most dangerous city in the country? Detroit? New York? LA? Where did you hear this from?
The thing is though that it is an expensive place. Also it isn't fair for the people who live on the west coast. I live VA and NYC may sound like a great place, but the Subway is not a place you want to be in late at night and it is very confusing. I would be surprised if it was there. Also where was there a beach in Columbus or St. Louis?
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Oh, I simply saw an Airport north of the center I listed on Google Earth. Now that I look at it it does look rather small.
You completely ignored my post. I can't imagine why you would do that. Maybe it's because I actually discredited several of your arguments?
You also fail to realize, that for anyone on the West Coast, the Midwest is way to far to drive. They all have to fly. The price difference between flying from San Diego, CA to St. Louis, and from San Diego to Columbus, OH was about $5 around the time of Nationals last year. However by moving Nationals from Columbus to St. Louis, many people on the East Coast who used to be able to drive had to fly. Even with high gas prices, it's far more cost effective to stuff 5 or more people in a car or SUV than it is to fly that number of people. My point is, if Nationals is in the Midwest, or the East Coast, everyone on the West Coast has to fly. If it's in the Midwest, people on the West and East coast have to fly. If Nationals where on the East coast, generally only people on the West Coast would have to fly. Obviously I'm making some generalizations, however, the bottom line is that flying costs more than driving, and that it would be prudent to place Nationals in a location that allows the largest number of people possible to drive there.
St. Louis gets that rap when they combine the East St. Louis (Illinois) crime statistics with the main St. Louis crime statistics.
It doesn't reinforce your point. Driving for more than a day is rarely cost effective. Plus it means that people have to take at least two extra days off of work. And there where two parts to the post. You still completely ignored the first part.What, this?
If anything, that proves my point. People will drive regardless of distance as long as it's more cost effective than flying and time is not a factor. There were plenty of East and West Coast license plates pulling up in St. Louis to discredit your assumption that everyone outside of a certain radius flies.
Your rude callout, however, was unnecessary.
You still completely ignored the first part.
Ok. The part about major corporations hiring people to scout out things like food and stuff that was confusing. My point was there was absolutely no excuse for the food issue this year. If that is what you meant, then yes, we are in agreement.I don't get what you expect me to respond to in the first part. We're in agreement.
Ok. The part about major corporations hiring people to scout out things like food and stuff that was confusing. My point was there was absolutely no excuse for the food issue this year. If that is what you meant, then yes, we are in agreement.
True, but there weren't any fast food places within walking distance of the convention center. So the hours of operation of non-existent restaurants is hardly an issue. I'm still surprised there wasn't any sort of place in the actual convention center selling food. That tiny little cafe doesn't count. Unless they manage to have food in the convention center next year, I don't see how they can possibly have Nationals in the same place.Well, to expand on that a bit, just googling for food places is unlikely to be sufficient. Even chain fast food places in downtown areas tend to keep odd hours of operation. What a corporate event planner gets paid to research is not just whether food is in the area, but also when it is available and whether the venue area as a whole is capable of handling the expected attendance load during the event schedule. A cursory glance at Google Maps does not necessarily answer those questions. Obviously that would have been a big NO in downtown St. Louis had anyone really looked into it.