Didn't seem like anyone saw it so I thought I would repost.
Werewolf xvi the rise of team plasma: Town wins
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Didn't seem like anyone saw it so I thought I would repost.
PokeChampofPokeBeach
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Wow Cantor. You posted that six minutes ago. Why are you in need of such immediate validation? I honestly find your defense of Scott somewhat suspect. Scott had been getting himself into trouble, I find it odd that you can so surely claim SS7 wouldn't have helped him out. How do you know SS7 wouldn't have tried, in his last moments, to try and make Scott look good to the town?
jellyfisher
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I am 100 percent sure that DragonClyne725's role reveal is true. I'm actually surprised no one noticed something about all of the posts he has made. These are his first few posts (I didn't quote all of his posts since there are to many).
So it appears that he has a speech impediment that requires him to make a reference to something cold in every post he makes. And since he has done this since his first post, I would have a very hard time believing it was faked.
For today's lynch, I still feel that Scottistru is the best option.
So it appears that he has a speech impediment that requires him to make a reference to something cold in every post he makes. And since he has done this since his first post, I would have a very hard time believing it was faked.
For today's lynch, I still feel that Scottistru is the best option.
Son_of_Apollo
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this is a very good point
Napoleon
New Member
Time zones blargh.
So true fact, part of the point of that big post I made was pretty much just pretentious and self-righteous so I can come back post game with the "I told you this would have been a better play even with all the apparent downfalls but Nuh-Uh". Just saying. I'm like that. Also it makes it pretty clear who I don't think is town.
Also PCPB pulled the vet card on me, which I find humorous because I've been in one game before. And then he QQ'd out. Chin up folks.
KP's right about word 24 being "player" in my role. And I've already said multiple times that I have a 1-for-1 role so I don't want to ditch it for some seer.
If at this point people still don't get what I mean by 1-for-1, I mean if I get wolfed, cute stuff happens.
Also just to screw over everyone's night plans and giving y'all no chance to discuss the reasoning behind this because I like being like that, I have Chandelure.
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So true fact, part of the point of that big post I made was pretty much just pretentious and self-righteous so I can come back post game with the "I told you this would have been a better play even with all the apparent downfalls but Nuh-Uh". Just saying. I'm like that. Also it makes it pretty clear who I don't think is town.
Also PCPB pulled the vet card on me, which I find humorous because I've been in one game before. And then he QQ'd out. Chin up folks.
KP's right about word 24 being "player" in my role. And I've already said multiple times that I have a 1-for-1 role so I don't want to ditch it for some seer.
If at this point people still don't get what I mean by 1-for-1, I mean if I get wolfed, cute stuff happens.
Also just to screw over everyone's night plans and giving y'all no chance to discuss the reasoning behind this because I like being like that, I have Chandelure.
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PokeChampofPokeBeach
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http://pokegym.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2241723&postcount=918
^ Another gem, in which SS7 actually agrees with points made against him by Scottistru. "Quite true", "...you absolutely can. I even suspect myself of being Saruman", and the best one is "You are absolutely right."
I want thoughts on this!
^ Another gem, in which SS7 actually agrees with points made against him by Scottistru. "Quite true", "...you absolutely can. I even suspect myself of being Saruman", and the best one is "You are absolutely right."
I want thoughts on this!
I reposted because small posts seem to get lost in most instances.
Furthermore, yes I do enjoy immediate validation too much.
Lastly, a wolf incriminating a wolf by saying they are playing well at the last moment before they die is idiotic. From the time in this game as well as some of the past games I have read, SS7 is anything but that.
Ultimately him talking to SS7 breaks down to a wifom. If SS7 was at one level of play, he would have commented on scott's play. At the next level, he would not have because that would have made him and scott look wolfie. At the next level he would, because town looks at people who the wolves associate with as if they have to be townies. The rest of the levels alternate similarly.
Furthermore, yes I do enjoy immediate validation too much.
Lastly, a wolf incriminating a wolf by saying they are playing well at the last moment before they die is idiotic. From the time in this game as well as some of the past games I have read, SS7 is anything but that.
Ultimately him talking to SS7 breaks down to a wifom. If SS7 was at one level of play, he would have commented on scott's play. At the next level, he would not have because that would have made him and scott look wolfie. At the next level he would, because town looks at people who the wolves associate with as if they have to be townies. The rest of the levels alternate similarly.
PokeChampofPokeBeach
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So seeing as Cantor and Napoleon agree with each other again (why am I not surprised at this?), I'll address this at both of you:
I understand it's a bit of WIFOM (I even looked up the definition of that on Mafiascum, so I can be on-par with your fancy terminology), but Scottistru had gotten himself into a predicament. And if Scott hadn't gotten into trouble, I agree, SS7 would never do it. But Scott was taking heat. He was jumping all over people (except, you will not, on SS7, who is the only person you mattered) and then when SS7 was exposed, it was the ONLY time that day he expressed suspicion against a person and didn't vote on it. It is a subtlety, but I believe it to be an important one. He then subsequently disappeared for a bit from the discussion (which I find VERY interesting) and he re-emerged he voted for SS7. This was after others had started to begin voting for him. I find it most interesting that Scottistru, jumpy as he was, only applied the brakes to his voting when SS7 was in trouble (and in BIG, decisive trouble; Scott's votes before that were at the littlest of things). And then when he did, SS7 gave him the biggest praise, declaring that his arguments were finally making sense!
Scott probably would have been lynched that day for his jumpiness. The only reason he's alive is probably because SS7 went down first.
Again, I ask for your thoughts. I want to make sure we make the right lynch today!
I understand it's a bit of WIFOM (I even looked up the definition of that on Mafiascum, so I can be on-par with your fancy terminology), but Scottistru had gotten himself into a predicament. And if Scott hadn't gotten into trouble, I agree, SS7 would never do it. But Scott was taking heat. He was jumping all over people (except, you will not, on SS7, who is the only person you mattered) and then when SS7 was exposed, it was the ONLY time that day he expressed suspicion against a person and didn't vote on it. It is a subtlety, but I believe it to be an important one. He then subsequently disappeared for a bit from the discussion (which I find VERY interesting) and he re-emerged he voted for SS7. This was after others had started to begin voting for him. I find it most interesting that Scottistru, jumpy as he was, only applied the brakes to his voting when SS7 was in trouble (and in BIG, decisive trouble; Scott's votes before that were at the littlest of things). And then when he did, SS7 gave him the biggest praise, declaring that his arguments were finally making sense!
Scott probably would have been lynched that day for his jumpiness. The only reason he's alive is probably because SS7 went down first.
Again, I ask for your thoughts. I want to make sure we make the right lynch today!
PokeChampofPokeBeach
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Nope, not was I was talking about. I've asked this twice of you, and twice you have ignored this point. What do you think of Scott taking heat? Doesn't that change everything? He was already look wolfy, SS7 could have been saving him. Do you outright deny this?
JewelQuest
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Cantor....
You were already sounding ridiculous and rude with the first posts about Diaz. Now you are just obsessed. If Scott wasn't the biggest lead, I would seriously consider voting you.
PokeChampofPokeBeach
New Member
+1
Also, @ Napoleon and Cantor (I consider you one and the same):
Despite the fact that my theory about SS7 could be WIFOM, it doesn't change the fact Scott was jumpy. He played like a wolf that day and in my opinion that's good enough evidence to support his lynch.
I want to see Scott lynched now because I'm very curious why you both showed up at his aid. I think it's gonna look interesting when we see what alignment Scottistru is...
For being jumpy on and illogical on day two...
Vote: Scottistru
Here is the thing. Yes, there is some evidence against scott. But ultimately it is a wifom. While he bears investigation(which I will get to in a moment), it is not much.
Diaz has lied. He has posted poorly. He has convinced many people to name-claim with no votes against them and under no compulsion while we know that one wolf (who died skillfully at the hands of absoltrainer) became more powerful because a specific named person died. He has led the town on a witch hunt based simply on a specific reading of an amibigous mod post. Furthermore, on this witch hunt, the seer has been ousted on day 3. Furthermore, he cleared HIMSELF from being included in this witch-hunt by supposing that it would have been unnoticed if he hadn't brought it up.
Scott has voted for a wolf. And has been brought into a wifom by a wolf.
I don't see the conundrum.
As for investigating scott, I think that omega should target a willing person out of a pool of willing people to assist in targeting scott. That way someone else states the results, omega goes unknown, and if they refuse to work with him he comes out and calls wolf on them and gets priested.
Diaz has lied. He has posted poorly. He has convinced many people to name-claim with no votes against them and under no compulsion while we know that one wolf (who died skillfully at the hands of absoltrainer) became more powerful because a specific named person died. He has led the town on a witch hunt based simply on a specific reading of an amibigous mod post. Furthermore, on this witch hunt, the seer has been ousted on day 3. Furthermore, he cleared HIMSELF from being included in this witch-hunt by supposing that it would have been unnoticed if he hadn't brought it up.
Scott has voted for a wolf. And has been brought into a wifom by a wolf.
I don't see the conundrum.
As for investigating scott, I think that omega should target a willing person out of a pool of willing people to assist in targeting scott. That way someone else states the results, omega goes unknown, and if they refuse to work with him he comes out and calls wolf on them and gets priested.
Pikamaster
Active Member
Just something to note (not saying anything else), most people eliminate themselves for the sake of not making an argument for/against themselves.
PokeChampofPokeBeach
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Yet Diaz brought up the point about the possibility of a Werewolf having voted for SS7. And he also has a valid claim of being role-blocked by the Werewolves.
Diaz DID lie and Diaz DID stir up the pot and rocked the boat a little day 1. And he did lie. But he came clean about his speech impediment and he did reform his play and he's playing much better now.
Whereas Scottistru's play got WORSE overnight. It makes no sense to lynch the less suspicious player here.
If Diaz is leading a witch-hunt, let him lead a witch-hunt. We can't get a read on him, maybe if we let him do his thing we'll figure out his alignment. It's a witch-hunt that is potentially true. A/AM very well could be dropping a hint.
And consider this: Scottistru uses actual mislogic. He's on the chopping block: if we don't lynch him now, we're gonna lynch him later.
I'd rather vote Scott now and have Omega investigate Diaz. Why not? If Diaz is as bad as you claim, then there's no reason Omega can't verify his identity.
Also, Diaz wasn't solely responsible for the name-claiming. I got Son_Of_Apollo to spill his guts under pressure, KP's reveal made Dragonclyne reveal... and Diaz wasn't the only one who targeted KP.
Diaz's actions to me aren't suspicious at all. He's reformed his play from day 1 and he's actively contributing, when's the last time we heard from Scott?
PokeChampofPokeBeach
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jpulice, I +1 you. I haven't read five lines that true all day.
It's not the first time you've agreed with him. I can't find the post, it's 9:56 over here and I'm tired, but I KNOW I've seen it. You also are both using the exact same argument WIFOM right now.
But my point's invalid, bro. I dared to put his majesty Napoleon the great in the same boat as Cantor, my entire argument is now INVALID.
Personally, I don't think it's a coincidence that you are both are posting the exact same argument to defend the same player. If Scottistru is lynched today and he proves to be a wolf, we're gonna have some interesting things to talk about you two day 4.
It's not the first time you've agreed with him. I can't find the post, it's 9:56 over here and I'm tired, but I KNOW I've seen it. You also are both using the exact same argument WIFOM right now.
But my point's invalid, bro. I dared to put his majesty Napoleon the great in the same boat as Cantor, my entire argument is now INVALID.
Personally, I don't think it's a coincidence that you are both are posting the exact same argument to defend the same player. If Scottistru is lynched today and he proves to be a wolf, we're gonna have some interesting things to talk about you two day 4.