Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

What Decks are smart to play at Regionals? What decks will see the most play?

prodigal_fanboy said:
The entire argument being that they won't.
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and this is coming from the guy that makes a deck based on grovyle. Obviously has too much time on his hands.

Dialga doesn't always get a Dialga start for one thing and even if it does it doesn't always get the T1 Deafen, and unless the AMU player has an inconsistent list will only need the 2nd turn to set everything up. From what I been seeing AMUs are starting to use call energies to get the T1 downer material, and from what I heard people are teching in uxie MT in AMU just for Dialga to make them unable to get a deafen lock going for more than 1 turn.
 
Dialga can just stall with Defean whiel building a second one on the bench. then a simple Crobat/Remove Lost OHKos Mesprit and can send its energy to the lost zone. As soon as AMU can't Energy Pick-Up, its screwed.
 
BloodDraek said:
R u kidding me, trainer lock is bad but once AMU sets up all 3 Lv.Xs it completely demolishes Dialga. where r your special metals and psychic resistance going to go when AMU shoves 200 damage right up ur A. Maybe I was exaggerating when I said badly but it isn't easy for dialga once they get set up.
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Read my argument again, I said once one X is dead they only need to deafen lock so you can never get the X required for Supreme Blast back up.

I am aware of the Uxie MT, because I am an AMU player. Dialga G is by far the hardest matchup for AMU (Barring Machamp)
 
JandPDS said:
Ok while I still am not convinced that it is the best deck in the format. I fiannaly have seen a Palkia G, Dialga G deck that I found to be verry effective. Funny thing is this one wins with Palkia as the main Attacker. With the right list Plakia can be verry tough. All this time I though Dialga was hands down the best of the two. But now I am not so sure. Good Luck to everyone no matter what deck you decide to play.
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Even after going 9-0 with a Palkia/Dialga list that used Palkia as the main attacker (legos) I still am not sure if its BDIF. It does have problems against a few decks out there, but if those decks don't show up it really is a monster.

I think its time for a nice, I told ya so! :tongue:
 
BloodDraek said:
R u kidding me, trainer lock is bad but once AMU sets up all 3 Lv.Xs it completely demolishes Dialga. where r your special metals and psychic resistance going to go when AMU shoves 200 damage right up ur A. Maybe I was exaggerating when I said badly but it isn't easy for dialga once they get set up.
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AMU has trouble with a few decks and to be honest the decks it has trouble with are going to see play. That makes it VERY hard to be able to play it as I don't seeing it getting past T8 of a Regionals.

Drew
 
BloodDraek, how does AMU set up multiple level Xs quickly?

Answer: Free retreat, warp points, switch, premier balls, and level max.

What does Dialga G lock?

Answer: Both Mesprit's body and Moonlight (killing free retreat), along with warp point, switch, premier ball, and level max.

Further Dialga will prevent them from playing Night Maintance, TSD, or Pokemon Rescue to get a level X back into play once it's KOed. Dialga also turns off Azelf's body which would normally make a G deck pay one more nrg to attack. And on top of all that Skuntank will be poisoning whatever AMU puts active AND Dialga can Power Spray Uxie or Mesprit drops.

I don't see this as something that AMU can never win, but clearly, at the very least, it's an uphill battle.
 
Decks that are going to see play at Regionals:
-G Decks (variations of sorts, both Palkia and Dialga)
-Machamp (After all, it's a good play vs. G's for the most part)
-Gengar (With all the new trainers that entered the format, including a supporter that lets you look at your opponent's hand, Gengar got a lot better, not to mention Shadow Room is a good attack as well)
-Tyranitar (Whether you play a build that is based more along the lines of Grinding and Tanking, a build around Spinning Tail spread also isn't a bad choice. With Blissey PT you can heal yourself and discard basic dark energy, this is going to be a powerful play at Regionals)
-AmphyTric (Though many have forsaken it and thought bad of it, if it sets up quick enough, then it can be a powerful force, by locking powers with Damage Bind, starting the lock with Jamming, and preventing spread with Electric Barrier, this isn't a bad choice, just be careful and play smart against Dialga as your bodies are locked, and don't for your Blissey tech and/or Potions)
-AMU (Quick, Powerful, but once against rusty vs. Dialga. It needs it's trainers and stadiums to set up to win, and with Dialga locking those, that becomes a problem, however it is the same with AmphyTric, just attempt to set up the quickest you can, hope they whiff start, and go for it the best you can)
-Regigigas (This big tank IMO is still in buisness. Since Trainers are not essential for it's set up, it can still set up while being Deafen locked. It has no bodies that are essential either, meaning vs. Dialga you don't have too many problems, however Palkia will give you troubles with chain power lock)

Those are some of my top picks for Regionals
 
I have done some testing with Gengar and I have found that while it seems good, it just folds to SP Decks. People think that it can "beat" them, but Dialga deafen locking plus poison just does them in. The same is said with Machamp. If you play smart with an SP deck and deafen lock + poison they have the same problem. Most Dialga decks play 1 Unown G and that's enough to stop them from giving you a hard time. Most only play 2 middle stages as there isn't much room for more. I have also found in testing that the same problem happens when Gengar and Machamp are played in the same deck. If you can deafen lock + poison them they are in SERIOUS trouble. I don't see any good player playing Dialga to lose to any variant of Gengar or Machamp. It just seems like while they look like they are good, they are not going to get you that "regionals" win that you want and it will see some play.

AMU is okay, granted it beats SP decks, if you can actually play them. It has SERIOUS issues versus Gengar and can have issues against a lot of others including SP decks. If they can get that Deafen Lock + Poison it can hinder you and against a good player the AMU will be in trouble. Granted AMU if it gets setup can win, but if they get deafen locked on T1 they are done. The other issue is the deck can be a little flippy.

Gigas is about a 40/60 match up against SP decks. I expec t that the biggest issue is the amount of Champ that are going to see play.

If I had to guess on the top five decks of Regionals, I would have to go the following -

1 - Dialga G + Techs
2 - Machamp
3 - Palkia/Dialga
4 - Gigas
5 - Rogue/SD

I really don't see Gengar or Gigas doing well and there is too much fighting for Tyranitar to succeed. AMU is going have issues with consistency and the fact that Gengar if it seems play destroys it. I mean while AMU is good I am not sure it is the best choice as there are way too many trainers in it and they will have serious issues drawing dead against a Deafen Lock. It is a good deck but I just don't see it well.

I have some other thoughts but for now I am going to leave it at that.

Drew
 
Dont count out Kingdra folks, hits real hard real fast even if Deafon Locked, once the Lock is off then it sets up so quick.
 
Psychic Binds are the deck's weakness, you're right.

I know Machamp will see more play than States because the amount of SP Pokemon at States and how many it won.
 
TheDarkTwins said:
Gigas is about a 40/60 match up against SP decks. I expec t that the biggest issue is the amount of Champ that are going to see play.


Drew
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The thing is alot of those machamp decks are just gonna be second rate decks made by beginners that looked on one of these threads and saw that machamp is good, the same goes for Dialga decks.
 
I'm scared of T2 Porygon Z, man that thing SCARES me. Shiver me timbergs!

Though, Be cautious for the Scizor MD since everybody is playing the heck of it now.
 
The best decks to use at Reg's are your own and not cookie cutters. I've already got two people using my deck the same way just different trainers. and of course I still win.
 
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