WWE: Thoughts on WM29 and the AMAZING Raw the following night!!!!
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PKM4
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Yeah that's for sure!!! Did you see that Punk/Cena match on RAW? That's one of the best RAW matches I've seen in awhile. Cena Batista Bomb, Botched Hurricanranna, and the Punk Piledriver. Like WOW I'm pretty sure that move is banned. Had me on the edge of my seat.
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Recorded it to watch tonight. Was it better than the Punk/Jericho match from a couple months ago?
PKM4
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Technically no, but it's by far the best match you'll get out of Cena on a regular TV Show with a quality opponent like Punk.
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Ahhh... So it was akin to an average match between two decent in-ring workers, then?
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Don't speculate. Just watch it.
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MNR review...
I should have seen the Trip return the moment that VKM started this fight. Really, I should have. It was so telegraphed. I do wish that they'd let Lesnar actually do something other than be an ambiguous heel.
Kahli and Henry are probably the worst performers on the roster. Why do they exist again?
My word, is Swagger's new persona embarrassing. There's a difference between mocking current news events, and simply making a fool of yourself and the company you work for. I feel the same way about Swagger as I do about 3MB: indifference bordering on pity.
Did Randy Orton always look this stiff? He looks so awkward in the ring, almost like he's constantly off-balance. It's really, really weird. That being said, I love watching Cesaro's in-ring work. I do kinda wish that he'd retire the Neutralizer as his finisher and adopt the mid-air uppercut as his finisher. That thing looks devastating.
Is there any way they can get Brad Maddox off my television screen? Indifferent to the point of pity.
I forgot that Cena actually used to do halfway decent promos. Or that the WWE could actually produce them.
I can think of plenty worse things than a Barrett / Sheamus extended feud. Like a Cena/Anybody extended feud.
I'm so glad they got rid of Little Jimmy. Truth doesn't deserve to be saddled with such a terrible gimmick. I do hope that he didn't re-injure his leg during that match. WHAT'S UP!
OK, when are they going to take the titles off of Kane/Bryan and get them actually feuding? We all know it's coming, when will it actually happen?
I want more Shield. Best thing to happen to the company since CM Punk's shoot.
Was Miz's leg a worked thing? Or did he legitimately botch?
John Cena knows how to do a Crippler Crossface? That was new! And Cole, as usual, botches the delivery. Something else new: a Powerbomb from Cena! Is he now a Seven Moves of Doom guy? Woah, there's an 8th move: a flying legdrop from the top rope! Punk's Piledriver looks even more devastating than Taker/Kane's version. Hurricarana for the win? Really? That being said, that was one of the better grindy matches I've seen. Not on the level of Punk/Jericho, but probably the best Punk/Cena match they ever put on.
I should have seen the Trip return the moment that VKM started this fight. Really, I should have. It was so telegraphed. I do wish that they'd let Lesnar actually do something other than be an ambiguous heel.
Kahli and Henry are probably the worst performers on the roster. Why do they exist again?
My word, is Swagger's new persona embarrassing. There's a difference between mocking current news events, and simply making a fool of yourself and the company you work for. I feel the same way about Swagger as I do about 3MB: indifference bordering on pity.
Did Randy Orton always look this stiff? He looks so awkward in the ring, almost like he's constantly off-balance. It's really, really weird. That being said, I love watching Cesaro's in-ring work. I do kinda wish that he'd retire the Neutralizer as his finisher and adopt the mid-air uppercut as his finisher. That thing looks devastating.
Is there any way they can get Brad Maddox off my television screen? Indifferent to the point of pity.
I forgot that Cena actually used to do halfway decent promos. Or that the WWE could actually produce them.
I can think of plenty worse things than a Barrett / Sheamus extended feud. Like a Cena/Anybody extended feud.
I'm so glad they got rid of Little Jimmy. Truth doesn't deserve to be saddled with such a terrible gimmick. I do hope that he didn't re-injure his leg during that match. WHAT'S UP!
OK, when are they going to take the titles off of Kane/Bryan and get them actually feuding? We all know it's coming, when will it actually happen?
I want more Shield. Best thing to happen to the company since CM Punk's shoot.
Was Miz's leg a worked thing? Or did he legitimately botch?
John Cena knows how to do a Crippler Crossface? That was new! And Cole, as usual, botches the delivery. Something else new: a Powerbomb from Cena! Is he now a Seven Moves of Doom guy? Woah, there's an 8th move: a flying legdrop from the top rope! Punk's Piledriver looks even more devastating than Taker/Kane's version. Hurricarana for the win? Really? That being said, that was one of the better grindy matches I've seen. Not on the level of Punk/Jericho, but probably the best Punk/Cena match they ever put on.
I read that Vince was extremely angry and cussing up a storm about Punk using the Piledriver as he has ban any move that could cause serious concussion like piledriver.
Orton messing up in a ring is funny and ironic, considering that he is known to throw a temper tantrum if a wrestler working with him botch a move against him; his tantrum could get a wrestler fired if he has no reputation or skin on wall.
PKM4
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HHH/Lesnar was obvious when they announced the Vince/Heyman match last week. 12 staples sucks!
I'm okay with Henry but Kalhi has got to go.
I'm liking Swaggers new gimmick. It's entertaining and Zeb is a good mouth piece for Swaggs.
Orton has always been kinda stiff in the ring. Cesaro is the real deal. He's fantastic in the ring and that uppercut is nasty.
Maddox is AWESOME!!!
I can deal with a Barrett/Sheamus feud. They work well together.
I actually enjoyed Thruth's heel run. Go back to that please.
Kane and Bryan should go at it at Wrestle Mania!!
Believe in the Shield!
The Punk/Cena match was stellar IMO. I like Cena using the Batista Bomb but he should stay away from the Luchador moves. He's had the leg drop and the crossface thing for years, nothing new there.
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Vince got upset because the Piledriver move is banned because of what happened between Stone Col Steve Austin and Owen Hart. Vince had no idea Punk was going to do it.
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I can't wait to see the debut of.. FANNNNNNNNNNDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I hope there somehow becomes a Triple Threat between Sheamus, Barrett, and Orton so that The Shield can win the Tag Titles from Hell No at Wrestlemania.
Yeah its going to be awesome if it ever happens -_-
The Shield won't compete for the Tag Titles at WM sadly. And its about time you get on here and join the discussion.
There's been several sit down piledrivers done since then though, Vince will be more happy with the match than he is upset.
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I kinda ducked out of WWE for about 6 years while I had no cable (and really no TV). I've never seen the leg drop OR the Crossface out of Cena before, so it was a surprise for me to see them.
And Punk is an amazing wrestler. That Piledriver was incredible.
And Punk is an amazing wrestler. That Piledriver was incredible.
I didn't see Cena do a crossface? Only his usual STF about 4 times.
PKM4
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Agreed and agreed lol
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That would explain it. Very true! Punk is "The Best in the World!!!!"
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I think he meant the arms around the face except the crossface face is pretty much the No Lock.
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Fair enough, that is basically a crossface, even though Cole shouted for the STF lol.
Crossface is still a wrestling move, they just stopped using it for obvious reasons. Maybe we'll see it making a slow comeback after all these years.
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Cole's an idiot, and everybody knows it. I wish that JR were healthy enough to resume his role next to King, cuz JR actually knew his wrestling stuff. Heck, I would have taken Coach in PBP, if he hadn't taken the ESPN job (and I don't blame him AT ALL for that).
I don't think there's a man on the planet that knows more about the wrestling business than JR. And I don't think it's particularly health related, more wwe and he doesn't mind not travelling anyway.
Cole isn't the greatest commentator, but just look back to King's heart attack, to do that live on air, he's one hell of a man.
Great Khali is simply WWE's way of catering to masses in India; ie: $ due to merchandise and/or viewership. I heard that he is somewhat famous in India as an actor and wrestler. Although I am not sure just how popular he is in India.
If WWE ever finds a Chinese wrestler that they can market to China, they will give him a huge push similar to Ryback.
If WWE ever finds a Chinese wrestler that they can market to China, they will give him a huge push similar to Ryback.
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PKM4
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Cole's actually decent when he's not pulling his heelness. King is pretty bad and don't get me started on Josh Matthews. JBL is by far the best commentator they have right now.
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Very true! JR is the man at the commentating table. Yeah I agree. I was very impressed of how Cole handled himself and the company during that time.
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Oh 100% that's the only reason he's still with the company. When go to India they sell out because of him. They are trying to turn Del Rio into a Rey Mysterio for South America. That's why he's received such a huge push a face. Sin Cara sure hasn't turned out to well.