Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

¿Which is the ultimate deck?

yeah

but aside from that. The percentages will usualy be about the same or around that area.

Sometimes techs don't even help. It breaks the consistency of the deck. I do use techs myself but I try to limit them as much as possible. I would much rather go for consistancy and having a better chance at least of beating more decks than having 2 techs take up 2 spaces just to do better against a certain deck and not do well against other decks.

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Articjedi said:
You know, a lot of those matchup percents depend on what the other deck is teching. You could turn some of the major losses in there into autowins if you put in the right card.

major losses into autowins I see that as being very hard to do. Maybe it'll give you a better chance at beating a certain deck that your having problems with. But to turn it into an auto win is quite hard to do. As very few decks have autowins against the others.

I would much rather play a deck I'm having problems with a smarter spproch than teching in something for it.

I had a conversation once with a person here on the gym. They said that Delta has an autoloss to Bandoom cause all Bandoom had to do was lockin Crystal Beach. But I had already witnessed some matchs so I didn't tell the person they were wrong or laugh at them or anything like that. Cause they would soon find out that it's a closer match than they thought. And the Delta players didn't tech anything special for the Bandoom match.

Techs are good when they help you against multiple decks. Like Crystal Shard. Many people are starting to try and fit 1 or 2 in their decks with all the Dragons going around.
 
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chriscobi634 said:
but aside from that. The percentages will usualy be about the same or around that area.

Sometimes techs don't even help. It breaks the consistency of the deck. I do use techs myself but I try to limit them as much as possible. I would much rather go for consistancy and having a better chance at least of beating more decks than having 2 techs take up 2 spaces just to do better against a certain deck and not do well against other decks.

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major losses into autowins I see that as being very hard to do. Maybe it'll give you a better chance at beating a certain deck that your having problems with. But to turn it into an auto win is quite hard to do. As very few decks have autowins against the others.

I would much rather play a deck I'm having problems with a smarter spproch than teching in something for it.

I had a conversation once with a person here on the gym. They said that Delta has an autoloss to Bandoom cause all Bandoom had to do was lockin Crystal Beach. But I had already witnessed some matchs so I didn't tell the person they were wrong or laugh at them or anything like that. Cause they would soon find out that it's a closer match than they thought. And the Delta players didn't tech anything special for the Bandoom match.

Techs are good when they help you against multiple decks. Like Crystal Shard. Many people are starting to try and fit 1 or 2 in their decks with all the Dragons going around.

no he is right. The right techs in metanite do wonders. with my metanite list the decks you listed would be like this

Metanite____________________________
Vs. Delta ---------------40/60-----------
Vs. Flariados -----------70/30-----------
Vs. Lunasol ------------80/35 -----------
Vs. Bandoom -----------50/50-----------
Vs. Megasteel-----------40/60 ----------
Vs. Shiftry/Weezing------60/30 ----------
Vs. Swampert/Lugia-----50/50-----------
Vs. Mercury-------------70/30-----------
Vs. Arcanine/Doom------40/60-----------
Vs. Polistall------------30/70-------------
Vs. Flygon/Eeveelution--50/50------------
Vs. Mewtric-------------55/35------------
Vs. Sallygross ----------50/50------------
Vs. Burning Liability-----45/55------------



I am basing this off my CC experiances so far
 
Absoltrainer said:
no he is right. The right techs in metanite do wonders. with my metanite list the decks you listed would be like this

Metanite____________________________
Vs. Delta ---------------40/60-----------
Vs. Flariados -----------70/30-----------
Vs. Lunasol ------------80/35 -----------
Vs. Bandoom -----------50/50-----------
Vs. Megasteel-----------40/60 ----------
Vs. Shiftry/Weezing------60/30 ----------
Vs. Swampert/Lugia-----50/50-----------
Vs. Mercury-------------70/30-----------
Vs. Arcanine/Doom------40/60-----------
Vs. Polistall------------30/70-------------
Vs. Flygon/Eeveelution--50/50------------
Vs. Mewtric-------------55/35------------
Vs. Sallygross ----------50/50------------
Vs. Burning Liability-----45/55------------



I am basing this off my CC experiances so far

How on Earth do you turn an auto Loss to a 2/3 winning percentage. Do you honestly think that your tech could beat in a Shiftry Ex vs. Metanite a 2 out of the 3 to advance in a top 4 or finals matchup?
It your talking about Latios * take in consideration that it's a pretty rare card and most Metanite players won't be able to play it in their decks.

I think you meant 80/20.
 
chriscobi634 said:
How on Earth do you turn an auto Loss to a 2/3 winning percentage. Do you honestly think that your tech could beat in a Shiftry Ex vs. Metanite a 2 out of the 3 to advance in a top 4 or finals matchup?
It your talking about Latios * take in consideration that it's a pretty rare card and most Metanite players won't be able to play it in their decks.

I think you meant 80/20.

well acually the card is not that hard to find coughEBaycough

Acually I meant 70/30...I messed it up a bit.

But anyways no I don't use latios*

First things first Shrifty ex is not hard to beat, I simply do not use my powers and power up my secret weapon that only team metanite knows about.

Thing is that with the right techs I can turn SOME of those matchups to the way I put them but then again it just an opinion......as I said efore it is hard because the deck can tech anything so with the right trainers pokemon and strategy you can win some however some of those decks are more or less auto loss like raieggs but compared to shrifty ex rai eggs as nothing that can be used against it in a metanite deck
 
Delta is the only deck that consistently beats Banette. I smoked Jason in the swiss and beat him easily game 1 of the finals at the CC. Game 2 he needed to strip 3 energy off a Raichu to prevent me from dropping a DRE to knock it out AND he needed to get a Tight Jaw heads. Jason got all the flips and won, then won a sudden death match because Banette has a huge edge in SD.

Delta is easilly a 70/30 vs. Banette if you aren't a FREAK about it.
 
You should have won that one

Jason got to lucky on hitting like 5 consecutive heads or something like 4/5.

Like I said Jason had to really work at to have a chance, and it's the world champ we are talking about.

(No disrespet to Jason)

Coming from Moss I'll change the percentages to 60/40 in favor of Delta.

Delta Vs. Banette

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Matt Moss has spoken. I would also like to see what is your opinion on techs. Do they really change matchups as much as Absoltrainer says they do. And would you play them to disrupt the consistency of a deck in order to have better matchups against others? (I should be a reporter, it's like an interview)

Any takers for Banette.
 
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Yes, the right techs can do wonders in matchups.

No, if they are small, they shouldn't hurt the consistency that much, if at all.
 
Which I have seen done

ryanvergel said:
Sunny D-the deck with no bad matchups

Unless everyone starts teching in crystal shards....

Some DELTA players have started to do. Even Metanite players for Mirror matchs. I teched 2 in my Arcanine Ex/Doom. So I kind of took that into consideration.
 
Absoltrainer said:
First things first Shrifty ex is not hard to beat, I simply do not use my powers and power up my secret weapon that only team metanite knows about.

Yeah, Latios * is a big secret.
 
SuperWooper said:
Yeah, Latios * is a big secret.

No I don't even owne one of those at the moment. It is a card that has never been mentioned as a possible tech for metanite in any known metanite thread only through Team Metanite PMs
 
Absoltrainer said:
No I don't even owne one of those at the moment. It is a card that has never been mentioned as a possible tech for metanite in any known metanite thread only through Team Metanite PMs

Nothing else can OHKO a Shiftry ex, unless it's Lugia ex (which is basically Latios * in ex form anyway).
 
SuperWooper said:
Nothing else can OHKO a Shiftry ex, unless it's Lugia ex (which is basically Latios * in ex form anyway).


They do throw exxecutor delta in decks now with delta pokemon and that can one hit ko shiftry

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Absoltrainer said:
No I don't even owne one of those at the moment. It is a card that has never been mentioned as a possible tech for metanite in any known metanite thread only through Team Metanite PMs

is it exxecutor
 
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