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Ban Blaziken Ex: Save The Format

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Tyranitar666 said:
Yeah you can;t kill them. ALSO, any card that DOES kill Blaziken EX is water and thus dies to Ampharos or a Rayquaza. Blaziken Rayquaza Ampharos is become PERFECT in that it can cover EVERY aspect. It already could, not it can handle them from the bench making it nigh impossible to win.

And you cant put double rainbow on an EX but u CAN put it as a combusken and evolve to it after wards ;)
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TTar: Gardy EX kills Blaziken EX as well. Don't forgot that EX's with over 120 HP (usually) have two weaknesses. I know that gardy is at a huge disadvantage against Blaziken variants, so don't bask my head in.

BAR is perfect? Cut me a break. It's a good deck, man. Possibly the best in the format. Probably the best in the format. Good deck, but can't cover every aspect. There is luck involved in Pokemon. Try to stop making such rash generalizations (Wow! I didn't even know I knew that word!) when talking about archetypes and pretty much everything else, too.

Not dissing, but saying slow down and wait until states to bring this up again. After seeing what's making a big show there, then I'll consider bringing up banning Blaze EX, but right now I think I'll just go wherever the game takes me.

-WooP
 
Based on my "superior knowledge of the game", I concur with T-Tar. You need to see it before you can believe it, but yeah, this kills everything. It will win 99 games in 100, only losing occasionally with a terrible start and the opponent having one of the luckiest starts in his life. You guys aren't panicking nearly enough. :p

Feraligatr? Nothing compared to this. Gatr could be countered by quite a bit, including Crobat, Dark Muk, even Koga's Zubat! No... this is much much worse, and something much more drastic needs to be done.

It would seem this is just another example of Nintendo not paying attention to what they're doing... and not taking into account what releasing certain cards can do to the game.
 
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not as broken as my generalraikou's raikou, just ask anyone who has it...or bigchuck who was the first to call it broken ;(

btw, besides showing people why blaziken should be banned, do you think pto or whoever will actually ban this card because of reading this post? Perhaps they should hire fulop to help make/ban cards =/
 
Why should we complain about a card when we should be talking how to beat it! It isn't unstopable and isn't "game over" when a Blaze EX gets out. I've played RAMBO or whatever it's new name is and it does lose.
 
Jim- Manectric isn;t even all that good. I like AMpharos better by FAR. I dont even use Manectric. Amphy man handles Kabutops and Kingdra and such. Manectric doesn't/ Manectric is FAR from the key.
 
kingkyle, what does it lose to? And are you playing it right?

Not everyone's going to win with it, obviously, but so far for me it hasn't lost, and it's only come close to losing against itself.

~ RaNd0m
 
It troubles me when a single card is ultra-powerful because there's an inherent advantage to families who have more disposable income. The gap between the haves and the have nots increases because someone who is able to afford to buy many, many cards has the ability to build up these killer decks.

My Armaldo/Cradily deck doesn't have a snowball's chance in someplace really, really hot against what's been described here. It doesn't look like 3rd turn Armaldo will be enough.

A single card shouldn't force mass rebuilding of decks to either include or counter it. JMHO

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Just got back from league..*shakes his head* I have been tweaking this deck for a while myself. Looks nearly identical to the one(s) in the deck section, only with a few mods to fit my own play style. I knew what to expect...but it was just horrific to see Blaze EX in action. Just disgusting...*chuckles* A couple of my friends jokingly said that they'd only play me if I used my fun deck (which I did for the rest of the night. Anyways...) This deck is so overpowered.. I was playing against decent players, and just creaming everything they put out. Once Blaziken got out, the deck just sits there and does 100 a turn. To anything...nothing else has that power, and it can just target whatever they decide to put an energy on. Unbelievable..

I think a muk EX swarm deck with water pokemon (Suicune EX to move the energy around? I have no idea) Would have a decent shot to beat the blaziken EX deck because every card it plays relies on a power. But...such a deck would get creamed by any deck that wasn't power based, like BAR/RAMBO. So the blaze EX counters would only be effictive if thats all it ever went up against.

As far as states goes..*shudders* I shouldn't be able to call shots, but since theres only 1 week between the official release and the MA and RI State tournaments...the people in the Top 8 are going to be everyone who's got the money/cards to play Blaziken Ex. And that...that is just really sad. But unless something happens....thats how it will be.

As for banning, errataing.... I would like to see Team Aqua Manectric's power put back to the way it was in japan. That would force BAR to use Ampharos again, and slow it down just enough for other decks to contend once again. My arcanine deck had no problems whatsoever with BAR decks...They'd get 4 prizes off me, but I'd get 2 Rays with crystal shards and end up with 6 prizes off them.

Banning Blaze EX is a last resort, but I think that if it came to it, it would work. All the other EXs are still workable. Seeing one out and powered doesn't end the game just for it being there. Blaze EX practically does, barring a really strange situation.

Just my thoughts on a very bad situation...
 
Flare Starfire said:
... I knew what to expect...but it was just horrific to see Blaze EX in action. Just disgusting...

...theres only 1 week between the official release and the MA and RI State tournaments...the people in the Top 8 are going to be everyone who's got the money/cards to play Blaziken Ex. And that...that is just really sad...

Just my thoughts on a very bad situation...
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Thanks for your thoughts. I think it was a serious mistake releasing a new set in the middle of a championship season as it gives a definite advantage (yes, I'll say it again) to those who have to spend a smaller percentage of their income to things like groceries and pediatrician bills.

There's another issue at hand that has to do with the diversity of the play environment. Just like a species has to have genetic diversity in order to survive, so this game needs to be able to support a diverse number of decks and play styles in order to survive. People won't keep playing if one particular deck wins everything and they can't afford to play that deck. It's no fun to get creamed consistently, no fun to not be able to play your favorite type (if it's grass, and some of my favorite Pokémon are grass), no fun to realize that playing your favorite Pokémon is untenable.

Isn't the game the most fun when you're not sure who's going to win? Don't you have the most fun from a well-played, close and crafty match? I sure do!

I'm sending off my email to Jimmer...not a direct call for banning because I haven't even seen the card, much less played against it, but to assess the situation.

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Ah, playing your favorite pokemon....the entire reason I've played nothing but arcanine decks, trying to make them viable to compete in tournament environs.. Unless something changes, states will be the first time I don't have an arcanine in my deck at all, let alone as the main attacker... babayaga is right. It's more fun to play with pokemon you like, and try to win with them...but I realized that if I didn't play this deck, RAMBO, I would be totally wasting my time as my loss would be quite assured from the moment it hit someone who was playing it, thus ending the point of trying to win the tournament in the first place.

If there was even the slightest chance I could make a feasible deck to counter with, I would, and it would involve arcanine. But theres just no chance at all. What fun is it? It isn't, and we'll start losing players who get frustrated of losing every time they see the vaunted card.

I'll write an email, too.

*goes off and does that*
 
I kind of got discouraged from playing my water decks because of stupid Gardevoir and Blaziken. It's like the only way you can win at all in this format is to play one of the two decks or to make an anti-deck.

I miss the good old days when I played my favorite decks. Now its all about putting up protection against EXs. I miss Blastoise...
 
Water Pokemon Master, go to the Deck Help and Strategy Forum, and then click on my thread about the future format. You'll be happy to find that I'm trying to revive Blastoise.

Anyway, water decks aren't at that much as a disadvantage against Blaziken EX. Aqua's Walrein and Blastoise EX and Milotic, all of which are in my deck, can all KO it in one shot. If you're so worried about Blaziken EX, play straight water, but I should warn you, Ray EX has resistance. BLAZIKEN EX IS NOT DOMINATING ENOUGH TO FORCE YOU TO PLAY SOMETHING TO DIRECTLY COUNTER IT UNLESS YOU CAN'T BEAT IT WITH THE EXACT SAME DECK LIST WITHOUT THE LUCK FACTOR. Which is to say, you either play BAR, BARD, BRAD, RAMBO, Gardy/EX/Trode, Salamence, Aggron/Xatu, Steelix/Xatu, Aggron/Wailord, Ampharos EX, Niniken, or Stoise EX when it comes out. Pokemon is a TCG, so there will be dominating cards. Let's not complain until after States, shall we? Do it privately all you want, but I'm sick of this whining. Just play the game.
 
Until Blastoise Ex or those anti-ex stadiums come out I think Blaziken ex is too powerful for the format. It does look like that will change. Blastoise Ex looks like it will just crush that deck. You can always Shard Ray. But states looks like it could get ugly with the # of Blaziken ex.
 
SuperWooper said:
Water Pokemon Master, go to the Deck Help and Strategy Forum, and then click on my thread about the future format. You'll be happy to find that I'm trying to revive Blastoise.

Anyway, water decks aren't at that much as a disadvantage against Blaziken EX. Aqua's Walrein and Blastoise EX and Milotic, all of which are in my deck, can all KO it in one shot. If you're so worried about Blaziken EX, play straight water, but I should warn you, Ray EX has resistance. BLAZIKEN EX IS NOT DOMINATING ENOUGH TO FORCE YOU TO PLAY SOMETHING TO DIRECTLY COUNTER IT UNLESS YOU CAN'T BEAT IT WITH THE EXACT SAME DECK LIST WITHOUT THE LUCK FACTOR. Which is to say, you either play BAR, BARD, BRAD, RAMBO, Gardy/EX/Trode, Salamence, Aggron/Xatu, Steelix/Xatu, Aggron/Wailord, Ampharos EX, Niniken, or Stoise EX when it comes out. Pokemon is a TCG, so there will be dominating cards. Let's not complain until after States, shall we? Do it privately all you want, but I'm sick of this whining. Just play the game.
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Salamence, Aggron/Xatu, Steelix/Xatu, Aggron/Wailord, etc. wouldn't have much of a chance anyhow.
 
TrueGamerX said:
Salamence, Aggron/Xatu, Steelix/Xatu, Aggron/Wailord, etc. wouldn't have much of a chance anyhow.
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And you live in Virginia? WoW! Me too! Mabye once the set gets released (the one after AVM) we can have a little battle at whenever the next major tournament in VA. I'd love to see what you're playing. Can I take a guess? Gardy.
 
No I'm not playing Gardy. I do not jump on the bandwagon to what most people do with other decks. You SuperWooper make your own ideas which is cool, as do I and the majority of other people on here. As of right now I'm gonna try to practice with KabutopsEX/Boost. It's not much of a wise choice, but I have become used to K-Tops EX and how it plays out.
Anyway, not many decks or even water decks have much of a chance. But I'm going to the States to play my best and see how everything turns out.
 
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