Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

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If everyone says it's so broken, why don't they play it?

The reason we say 'it can only be played by 3 people', is because, of course, only three people had the guts to stay with it.
 
Three people play the deck.

Three hundred people bandwagon the deck and its creator.

That's how it goes.
 
I have only seen 4 people "Bandwagon" the deck here, and a few people that are hesitantly agreeing with HoPe.
 
gallade said:
If everyone says it's so broken, why don't they play it?

The reason we say 'it can only be played by 3 people', is because, of course, only three people had the guts to stay with it.
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lolol if it was so good people would've jumped onto it and played it more. People don't have the guts to play an sp tool box? I didn't play a single sp deck last year for cities/states/regs. Where's your guts now? :lol:
 
Gengar Prime can't handle Dialga G's deafen as well as you would think.

oops.. wrong hype thread.. my bad o.o'

Anyway, HoPe is just one of those things in life.. you love it or hate it. Like the Yankees.. you really can't sort of like them.. you either love them or hate them.
IMO
 
Why Frosslass when you can Quagsire? Sure, with Belt, Lass OHKOs Phan if you Poison Structure, but it can very easily get return KO'd with it's amazing 90 HP (w/belt, 70w/o)

Lil Quaggy does 60 (100 w/belt), and switches to Bat/Chomp X/Staraptor/Honchkrow, all of which cannot be OHKOd without Phan using the 3-for-90 attack, and can all be healed by Chomp X. Plus, Quaggy is immune to damage while benched, which will never matter against Phan but hey who knows.

//rabble rabble
 
Phazon Elite said:
Why Frosslass when you can Quagsire? Sure, with Belt, Lass OHKOs Phan if you Poison Structure, but it can very easily get return KO'd with it's amazing 90 HP (w/belt, 70w/o)

Lil Quaggy does 60 (100 w/belt), and switches to Bat/Chomp X/Staraptor/Honchkrow, all of which cannot be OHKOd without Phan using the 3-for-90 attack, and can all be healed by Chomp X. Plus, Quaggy is immune to damage while benched, which will never matter against Phan but hey who knows.

//rabble rabble
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Froslass gl does 20 more damage to Donphan (after weekness), takes one less energy and uses a physic energy, which is already in the deck. Froslass gl can be dropped and used the same turn you use it, something that Quagsire can't do without Bronzong. Trust me I'm not worried about a revenge K.O. Froslass and a psychic energy are much easier to recover than a loaded Donphan.

Think about it, you use Toxic Fang, which puts them at 40 by the time it's back to you (assuming they dont warp, switch, or scoop) then you poketurn Crobat and use the psychic energy and the e-gain on him for Froslass to K.O. a Donphan. If they have a belt, use the Crobat you just Poketurned.:thumb:

Plus...you're running Garchomp in HoPe?....or you just talking about a general sp strategy?

Theorymon is fun.
 
Lord Broly said:
Luxchomp won nats because it was simply the most played. Therefore it had the most
probably at success. Worlds was a more closed tournament so there was alot more Gardy
there but still not as much Luxchomp. Once again i'm not gonna discredit the players that
won but if you had actually played Luxchomp vs Gardy, LC would lose. I will also add that
Gardy wasn't played as much in Seniors and Juniors therefore it didn't do well. Also i'm not
saying that the Japanese player only got to the Finals in Master's was luck. I'm sayin that
he got Lucky in his final match and that's why he won.
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He was undefeated at Worlds. I would wager to say that is far beyond "random luck". You have to be a good player to go undefeated at an event like Worlds. I liked Gardevoir Gallade as much as the next guy, but the match was by no means one sided in Gardevoir's favor.
 
PhadedPhione said:
He was undefeated at Worlds. I would wager to say that is far beyond "random luck". You have to be a good player to go undefeated at an event like Worlds. I liked Gardevoir Gallade as much as the next guy, but the match was by no means one sided in Gardevoir's favor.
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It wasn't one sided but it was in Gardevoirs favor, he was a great player but that finals against pramwatt was sick.
 
How did we just change the subject from the funniest argue in ages, to how lucky our world champion was, to topdeck uxie X when he needed it the most ?

Back on subject. HoPe (and general sp's, including other toolboxes) autowins against donphan with the poison fang strat !! OMGZORS YES THYE DO !!!

Donphan has so many different outs to toxic fang strat, that it will never help any1 playing crobat!!

pick it up from there guys :)

On a side note, to those who claims only 3-4 people plays hope world wide.. The count just went up by 1 (me)

//peace
 
The Toxic Fang strat doesn't autowin the matchup, it just helps. It's the same with pretty much anything, no match up is a autowin, there is always dumb luck and dumb decisions. Dunno how many times I've seen or been in an "Auto-win" situation and had some bad luck or a made a stupid move. lol.
 
Ok did anyone actually ever say it autowins the donphan mathup? Didn't think so lol. I only ever said it helps. And that HoPe has a good matchup vs donphan from matches I HAVE PROVEN. also ppl sayin redshark I agree with belly too much hw sports school ect...

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Oh an also the reason nobody played it was because it's a tough deck to play. Everyone saying oh it's just a toolbox that's so easy. Ur wrong dude thi deck needs intense playtesting and practicing before u can be good with it. Most ppl gave up on it as they dint know how to play a matchup so they assumed HoPe just sucked..
 
I actually don't think HoPe is that hard to play. I got it on my first try, and I have to say, I like it, and it's good. I'm not that even good of a player, and if I can play it pretty well on my first try, you guys who spend hours among days among weeks playtesting should with ease IMO.
 
Still even the good players that have tried this deck haven't don't all that well. Idk why but my best explanation is that they dint have enough practice with it or didn't know what to do at a certain situation
 
elekid_957 said:
Still even the good players that have tried this deck haven't don't all that well. Idk why but my best explanation is that they dint have enough practice with it or didn't know what to do at a certain situation
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:lol: Maybe it's just your in seniors and the meta is much easier to figure out/counter? And I thought I had an ego issue. lol and lol @ fanboys.
 
That still doesn't change the fact that he had success in what most players consider a meaningless division (in terms of tourny results). The same deal with brs. lol
 
Why u think I have a giant ego? I'm just saying a fact. Ppl give up on the deck too soon so they never see it's potential. Or they don't kno how to ply it
 
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