Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

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Brady1:
In that paragraph thingy I never saidthe word autowins. I said it was a way to beat it... Also I never said 3 games totally proves my argument. I just asked him to show some proof on why I'm wrong. He's never beaten HoPe and I've beaten donphan. Either it's been fluke or HoPe isn't all that ba against it.

I'd say the matchup is around 55-45 depending on how well they can draw into their belts and what is prized
 
Alex2k said:
Lol. Stop.

Eleki's good, but are you kidding me? Comeon, let's not ride anyone.
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I was a little pissed when I wrote my comment so I wasnt serious. But cmon, wouldnt it be funny if Eleki dominated masters after Brady1 has spewed all of this?:lol:
 
Deoxys Cool Form said:
Eleki/Gallade

By the looks of things you two are the main two HoPe players?

Do you want to do some testing against Donphan so we can prove some points here as this isn't getting anywhere?

Are there any more arguments which need to be proven aswell? Haven't really read this thread properly so don't know if there is.

LMK and if you don't mind, what do you say to some games to get rid of this theorymon and so that we can get some facts into this thread?
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sure, it;s a big master deck, so ill play some.
 
Blitzer said:
I was a little pissed when I wrote my comment so I wasnt serious. But cmon, wouldnt it be funny if Eleki dominated masters after Brady1 has spewed all of this?:lol:
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OMG this kid has more fanboys than people who bought the last Britney Spears CD...ah-oh
 
baby mario said:
It doesn't even matter who is the better player out of Eleki and Brady. This is supposed to be about whether or not Hope autowins Donphan because of Toxic Fang. If someone can't come on PokeGym and say it doesn't without being 'harrassed' by a bunch of people (and most of them have NOT WON ANYTHING with Hope), then this forum is in a pretty bad state imo.
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This post really halted me.

I disagree with Donphan losing because of Toxic Fang. Many Donphans happen to play Super Scoop Ups and Warp Points, most of time 4 SSUs and 2 Warps. In other hand, many Donphans tech Entei/Raikou Legend nowadays, which should make you think another time when playing those Crobats to TFang and Uxies to draw. Even if everything in you're deck is searchable.

These 2 Warp Points will nullify your poison when they're drawn, SSUs would do same thing and even save the whole elephant 50% of time. At least 4 Donphans would come to hunt your pokés in that game if Donphans draws into everything. Even if it doesn't, these 6 cards would make the game more difficult for Hope.

As Eleki stated, the game against Donphan is about Expert Belts and prizes, I agree with this. If Donphan doesn't draw into Belts, it can't kill even Crobats. But if it does draw into Belts and flips heads with SSUs, Hope is in trouble. As for those Belts, the Toxic Fang strategy would take another while to work since Blaziken couldn' Jet Shoot for a KO.

I don't really know every single card in Hope, and my post is based on previous posts and my own experiences in SP/Toolbox-decks. I'm really curious person and would like to see if Hope goes and gets a bigger tournament. Way to go for Eleki and others.
 
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elekid_957 said:
Brady1:
In that paragraph thingy I never saidthe word autowins. I said it was a way to beat it... Also I never said 3 games totally proves my argument. I just asked him to show some proof on why I'm wrong. He's never beaten HoPe and I've beaten donphan. Either it's been fluke or HoPe isn't all that ba against it.

I'd say the matchup is around 55-45 depending on how well they can draw into their belts and what is prized
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you said the word just, meaning a simple, easy game that one strategy beats it. How do you want me to "show" some proof? Lol this is tge internet. I could come back in a week and say i 16-3 your deck, and how will you know i'm not simply lying? Proof is in tourney results. Since your deck isn't ran often (after a season no less), and hasn't done anything in masters, you hobestly don't have reliable proof. Sure your deck has done decent in seniors, but that's seniors.

As to elekid dominating masters, i honestly could care less. I've never heard of him or where he plays, nor do I care about if hope wins a few brs or not. You've just missed ecery single one of my points is all. Lol
 
Brady1
I Didn't mean it was an easy win by saying just. Idk why u took it that way lol. Person that had a long post before that I agree with u. If they can't era into belts then I'll usually win. Also I don't play uxie and wouldn't be dumb enough to throw down azelf. So all I'd hvw was a crobat and raptor. Only 1 killed by erl. Also poketurn crobat bench it thn bench another bat or turn it and ko donphan with jet shoot. Or u belt and ko with jet shoot for 100
 
elekid_957 said:
Brady1
I Didn't mean it was an easy win by saying just. Idk why u took it that way lol. Person that had a long post before that I agree with u. If they can't era into belts then I'll usually win. Also I don't play uxie and wouldn't be dumb enough to throw down azelf. So all I'd hvw was a crobat and raptor. Only 1 killed by erl. Also poketurn crobat bench it thn bench another bat or turn it and ko donphan with jet shoot. Or u belt and ko with jet shoot for 100
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How well does Hope perform if Donphan plays Judges? Or should I ask, if you have no Staraptor on field, how well can Hope recover from a Judge?
 
meh, i went 5-0 today, then got a horrible start and got donked in finals. Whatevs. I hadn't even played it like 5 months. Thanks brady, if it was not for you, i would not have gone 5-0 :D
 
Simon got second too. If Antibes wondering I went 4-2 lost on a legit match ad them vilegar with 6 trainer start and sableye prized. Going tomorrow too
 
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