I just hate how your wrong atm. yes Sp has Uxie an Lucario Gl but thats why i run a 2-1-2 line so if they kill my champ with the Pixie i return the favor an kill there Pixie,See why i run to,Ish is beast. Deafen is one thing but thats why i run a *SUPPORTER ENGINE* so i cant be slowed down.
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I just hate how your wrong atm. yes Sp has Uxie an Lucario Gl but thats why i run a 2-1-2 line so if they kill my champ with the Pixie i return the favor an kill there Pixie,See why i run to,Ish is beast. Deafen is one thing but thats why i run a *SUPPORTER ENGINE* so i cant be slowed down.
So, you're plan to counter sp decks is to attack 2 turns in a row with 2 different machamps? It is MUCH easier for luxchomp or dialgachomp or sablelock to continue to return ko your machamps with prem ball + junk arm + uxie x than it is for you to continue with machamps. Do you know how hard that would be with only 4 rainbow energy and what, 2 twins? And it doesn't even matter if you take a few prizes. Plus, when you attach the rainbow, that puts your machamp at 120 hp. Only the zen blade is needed. You can't get by with unsprayed mesprit drops to save your champs.
Oh, yer right. I forgot you ran supporters, thereby making your deck completely impervious to any sort of skilled maneuvering at all.
I think this has been discussed before. Against a deck as quick as any sp build, you need both powers and supporters to threaten your opponent with lostzoning.
Oh, yer right. I forgot you ran supporters, thereby making your deck completely impervious to any sort of skilled maneuvering at all.
I think this has been discussed before. Against a deck as quick as any sp build, you need both powers and supporters to threaten your opponent with lostzoning.
Kayle
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not even by weavile g/uxie x?
Weevile G its a threat to if u really think about it,they kill my Gar an i get Machamp out an kill them,Then they get uxie x an kill me,I play the twins to kill it with the other champ...U guys are not looking at how fast the deck really is,ur stuck on sp thinking it beats lost world. the decks hardest match up is Dialga, its a 50-50 match up. Like i said before Build the deck an play it, I hate how players dont think outside the box these days.
You're the one who's just dismissing our arguments. Look at what you're saying. Sp has to get a new basic pokemon attacking each turn with a supporter engine that makes that incredibly easy, all the while disrupting you. In order to keep up, you have to attack with a new stage 2 each turn. In your list, you have a 2-1-2 machamp with 2 twins. With that skinny machamp line, you only have 4 of the unsearchable energies that you need to attack. I'm very skeptical of all of your points because they're just illogical.
And don't tell me to think outside of the box. You are the one jumping on the bandwagon with an exceptionally boring list.
And don't tell me to think outside of the box. You are the one jumping on the bandwagon with an exceptionally boring list.
Jumping on the bandwagon? homie i dont play sp or Lost Wolrd really, I PLAY STEELIX!!!!I know u haven't even played the deck to see what im talking about, ur just looking at the list an think " oh this wont work bla bla bla" Haunter is great for swinging as well, the whole deck can attack. wait a min Unsearchable Energy???? i run for in the deck starting hand is 7 cards Break that down, I get it 8.37% of the time in my opening hand.
Porii Sames
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What about Lostgar vs. Sablock? You gonna get T1 Gar up in THAT?
Elite_4_Allen
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Porii don't try him, you know what's gonna happen...
But seriously OG, 2-1-2 Machamp is hurting your consistency, which lostgar needs or else it's terrible.
If you focused on a more consistent deck, instead of trying to make all your matchups 50/50 or above, you would have a better deck alltogether.
But seriously OG, 2-1-2 Machamp is hurting your consistency, which lostgar needs or else it's terrible.
If you focused on a more consistent deck, instead of trying to make all your matchups 50/50 or above, you would have a better deck alltogether.
OG, you're still not providing anything of substance to the discussion. You're last argument was that you can attack with haunter and that there is a less than ten percent chance that you're going to get a card you want in your starting hand.
Wow. Idk how you can call our posts "blah blah blah." You should probably scroll up and check out the garbage you've been posting.
Of course I haven't played the deck. If someone had to build and test each specific list of any deck to be able to offer insight, then the gym wouldn't be here. But I have tested lostgar. Pretty extensively actually. I've tested speed versions, palkia techs, machamp techs, a mew prime speed version, and a vileplume version. Just because I haven't wasted my time testing your list doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about.
And if steelix is your deck, why are you arguing so vehemently for this one?
Oh right, I forgot. You think that somehow, in this deck's worst matchup, it still has a 50% chance of winning. If that were true, wouldn't that make it like the best deck in the history of pokemon?
Wow. Idk how you can call our posts "blah blah blah." You should probably scroll up and check out the garbage you've been posting.
Of course I haven't played the deck. If someone had to build and test each specific list of any deck to be able to offer insight, then the gym wouldn't be here. But I have tested lostgar. Pretty extensively actually. I've tested speed versions, palkia techs, machamp techs, a mew prime speed version, and a vileplume version. Just because I haven't wasted my time testing your list doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about.
And if steelix is your deck, why are you arguing so vehemently for this one?
Oh right, I forgot. You think that somehow, in this deck's worst matchup, it still has a 50% chance of winning. If that were true, wouldn't that make it like the best deck in the history of pokemon?
Cause the deck is too Damn Frecking good to over look
This Deck Lost World Flips are metagame inside out, u dont have to take prizes to win, u throw **** to the Lost zone to win,Knowing your opponets every card in hand an on top of that u pick pokemon off the bench to lost zone??? an the Palkia straight sucked in the deck,to much an to clunky to set up.
Yes i lose to sable-lock, they run the Bird in the list
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u tell me why the deck isnt that great atm?
Elite_4_Allen
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OG, you ignore my post...
You don't want to make any valid arguements and then you say you're not trolling?
You don't want to make any valid arguements and then you say you're not trolling?
LegendaryLugia
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Consistency issues and the fact that a Dark counter rips through your Gengars, and once you have to spend resources setting up your Dark counter counter, you've put yourself behind in keeping a constant flow of Gengars.
You could say something about that for any deck. Just cuz you give a Billy Mays advertisement doesn't mean the deck is actually good.
Gyarados flips the metagame upside down. It tears through every deck with its unmatched speed and consistency. It breaks the rules of Pokemon! You can attack, dealing out a minimum of 90 damage per turn without using energy! It gives you the ability to tech any cards you want and not sacrifice consistency!
The thing is, your list wouldn't just lose to sablelock (or any sp decks with dark techs), It is almost an autoloss. Any basic dark tech ohko's your gars, while spraying uxies to set up. You say you're going to get 2 consecutive machamps? You need 8 specific cards for that combo. The only way that is conceivably achievable is to somehow have both twins in your hand without using set up. And the thing is, when you take prizes, you mess up your ability to twins. Say I take the first prize, ohkoing a gar with weavile g. You somehow can already grab machamp. Take out. It's five to five. I can do psychic restore for 50 or something, sending up ambipom or something like that that I don't need. Or, even better, I could just send up ambipom and tail code. What are you going to do? If you do take out. Then I'll ko you champ, and it's 4-4. If you wait or even retreat, sacrificing your energies, (assuming you are able to do this), you're just wasting your precious lostzoning time and resources.
I have a strong feeling you've been testing against players who do not know what they're doing.
LegendaryLugia
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This is one magnificent troll.
It's almost macchamp level at this point
My name for it would be "this one goes to 11", and my signature move would be that i didn't drop the lost world until there was 11 pokemon in their lost world. When they ask why I didn't do it earlier, I will say "... This one goes to 11"
My name for it would be "this one goes to 11", and my signature move would be that i didn't drop the lost world until there was 11 pokemon in their lost world. When they ask why I didn't do it earlier, I will say "... This one goes to 11"
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