WHISCASHEX
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Looks like we're getting off the subject of MSNBC here, but I have a deck that can't make use of LatiOs d ex in anyway. Yes it's a good Poke and starter but what if you're deck has no use for it?
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Looks like we're getting off the subject of MSNBC here, but I have a deck that can't make use of LatiOs d ex in anyway. Yes it's a good Poke and starter but what if you're deck has no use for it?
ixidor89
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Yeah, I thought that this deck seemed similar to supertyranitar's.
im pretty sure it OHKOs it for 100. dosnt it have 90/100 hp?
just thought id ask: why no lugia ex? if it worked in LBS then having 1 should pwn the opponent.
HoLoN_TrAiNeR
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RK9 cant damage latios because of his ice barrier attack...
Lugia ex doesnt use Psychic energy, it will take you 2 turns and 2 holon castform to make it attack.
Charizard1987
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The main pokemon line are similier with the list that i posted in SMP there, except with steelix line in. 1-1 Steelix is good, but add in 2-2 scizor ex will increase your attack speed. From my experience with metagross and scizor deck, mercury and salamance deck hurt the most.
You have higher chance to win against the other deck. Acctually flygon is kinda easy win for this deck as long as you follow correct method, first, damage all flygon on bench with steelix and ohko them when oppoent send them out.:clap: Other than that, you will have higher advantage against bandoom and raiegg if you play scizor in your deck.
However, is it enough for you just play with 4 holon pokemon? Furthermore, you need one or two castform for draw...
You have higher chance to win against the other deck. Acctually flygon is kinda easy win for this deck as long as you follow correct method, first, damage all flygon on bench with steelix and ohko them when oppoent send them out.:clap: Other than that, you will have higher advantage against bandoom and raiegg if you play scizor in your deck.
However, is it enough for you just play with 4 holon pokemon? Furthermore, you need one or two castform for draw...
chriscobi634
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About that. If Flygon is ran with Eeveelutions. All they do is Gust up either Metagross or Queen OHKO that and it's game.
Papi/Manny
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Once this deck gets up a queen, its completely set-up and gets up metagross' like theres no tommorow. 1 cheap ko won't win the match.
Flaming_Spinach
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insanity said:
You'd be amazed what you can learn by reading the cards.
And Lugia can not make use of any energy you use. It takes an absurd amount of time to power it up.
Captain Petey
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bows to the great firey spinach. Latios ex makes a auto loss in rk9 into a very very easy match up. That and its so verstatile it can do so much for you not to play it. Metagross ex and wobby should make this a deck we should see win a few states.
Chris has a good point regarding the Flygon ex d matchup. Only the eevolution version has a chance. Be careful not to attack with fly ex if there are 2 metagross dx on the bench (as they allow a single-turn powered latios*) . Gust up one gross dx and kill with fly ex d, thus forcing the opponent to manually power up latios* for the next turn KO. You need to gust up said latios* (thus requiring 2 eevee d on the bench), thus the matchup is probably still in MSN's favor.
The sallygross (with BigChuck Steelix tech) probably has a favorable matchup to MSN. Sally d/latias* can OHKO steelix and Sally ex dx can OHKO the rest. Early teched steelix can mudslide queen/gross etc. However if MSN sets up a fast steelix it can return the favor and take out queen/gross dx/shellgon before it can harm steelix. A 100 on sally d also prevents super-connectivity (which would self-KO sally d).
The sallygross (with BigChuck Steelix tech) probably has a favorable matchup to MSN. Sally d/latias* can OHKO steelix and Sally ex dx can OHKO the rest. Early teched steelix can mudslide queen/gross etc. However if MSN sets up a fast steelix it can return the favor and take out queen/gross dx/shellgon before it can harm steelix. A 100 on sally d also prevents super-connectivity (which would self-KO sally d).
Charizard1987
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ok, I used to play with Scizorgross before and I took out 1 line of scizor for steelix ex after read your article. As a result, it works great. Steelix kills any 90, 100HP ex, which i always got annoyed when scizor's cross cut couldn't ohko them. But now, steelix does the job. Furthermore, when steelix or onix is in the prize, I still can attack with scizor. In my deck, I play with Rayquaza ex d as a mini steelix because it can attack with just 2 energies and it has no weakness. It useful mostly in the early game against Banatte ex, Jolteon ex where you can't charge up Steelix in time.
However, from what i observed in the game, I think 4 holon pokemon are too low for MSN. I mean if you got a bad start, most probably you might need 2 castform to have more draws while left 2 more for steelix's mudslide and latios. So, it may become a weak point that opponent can gain advantage if you run out of holon pokemon or he manages to lock them.
Other than that, Metanite almost has an even match against MSN. Besides that, I play with petm and only 1 researcher as i play with Scizor; however, since you don't play petm in deck , I think 2 researcher should be in the deck so that you can search out queen faster:thumb: one or two Giant stomp in the deck seems useful to me to discard heavily damaged ex pokemon.
These are few feedback from me. Cheers:clap:
However, from what i observed in the game, I think 4 holon pokemon are too low for MSN. I mean if you got a bad start, most probably you might need 2 castform to have more draws while left 2 more for steelix's mudslide and latios. So, it may become a weak point that opponent can gain advantage if you run out of holon pokemon or he manages to lock them.
Other than that, Metanite almost has an even match against MSN. Besides that, I play with petm and only 1 researcher as i play with Scizor; however, since you don't play petm in deck , I think 2 researcher should be in the deck so that you can search out queen faster:thumb: one or two Giant stomp in the deck seems useful to me to discard heavily damaged ex pokemon.
These are few feedback from me. Cheers:clap:
That's what I was going to say. But luckily, with Farmer, you can't get Metal back into the deck, so they stay in your discard for Super Connectivity.
Another thing, /w Cessation Crystal or a lot of Tools, Holon ruins can be great instead of Tauros and a Windstorm, or 2 Windstorm, for instance. This way you can Draw one more card and then discard an Energy card for Suêr Connectivity, that can be cool if you couldn't discard any Energy with Holon Supporters. In a turn so, you can have 0 Energy in your discard, and then do Supporter Holon, Holon Ruins, and then 2 Super Connectivity. You can also use Holon Ruins after a Farmer when you had less than 3 Energies in the discard.
And overall, that's a great deck, congratulations for this excellent article !
Tommy's Back
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Are people just making articles for random decks now? I swear if the deck is said from a human or monkey's mouth it ends up on this forum.
I love my team.
Btw, to all who support this deck, i have one name for you to shake to, Banette
Tom
Are people just making articles for random decks now? I swear if the deck is said from a human or monkey's mouth it ends up on this forum.
I love my team.
Btw, to all who support this deck, i have one name for you to shake to, Banette
Tom
Charizard1987
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Should be around that, but after get out a charged up steelix, the favor is more on your side. Unless banette stops queen's power from supply castform continuously .
and hey, this deck not only has 8 ideal starter, but 9, because latios ex has free retreat cost, too:lol:
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