Non-Professor wins Professor Cup!
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Honestly...Id continuing playing. I love this game so much and that's why it hurts so much for starting an upset in the community. I know some punishment is coming though.
EeveeLover
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75 points earned was the requirement this year. A League Leader, that is a Professor as well, earns 25 points per season.
But, you must be a Professor during the same time. If you are not a Professor, you do not earn Professor points.
So, either he was never a Professor in the first place, or was not one long enough to earn the points required to enter the event.
Either way, he did not belong there.
DarthPika
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Politoad, there's no point in glossing over what he is. We may as well say it, since he obviously seems to think what he did was acpetable. I don't think anyone would have cared nearly as much, but he was scum enough to accept the prizes and sell them. That's theft in my book.
baby mario
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100% agree.
The guy did wrong and P!P are dealing with him. They know what they're doing.
He lied his way into a Pokemon tournament, but that doesn't make him history's greatest monster.
Let's try and keep some perspective. Throwing out OTT insults doesn't exactly make the rest of us look good.
DarthPika
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SOME punishment? Dude... you'll be lucky not to get a life time ban/have leagal ramifications from this. Don't kid your self and think you'll only have "some punishment" coming. What you did is among the worst things you could have done in this game, and possibly punishable by law.
I am glad to hear you made money off of an event you didnt derserve to be in and were able to help out your family with its finances. I mean afterall your family is the only one on here that has money problems.:lol:
Those of us that deserved to be in that tournament give to the game constanly, inclding financially. Constantly giving cards to new and young players to help them build decks to play at league and in tournaments. Traveling hours at a time to run events that people can play in. If you think we get rich doing this and dont need any of the things you "stole" from us, YOU ARE DEAD WRONG!! Not to mention the chance to actually play in an event that should be exclusive to people that "work" for the game, and so we may actually have a chance to have something to be proud of.
If all you get is banned, I will be disappointed. I cant imagine you wouldnt deserve criminal charges being brought up, but its not my decission.
People like you make me really second guess why I do what I do for this game, I bet your parents are really proud.:nonono::nonono:
Those of us that deserved to be in that tournament give to the game constanly, inclding financially. Constantly giving cards to new and young players to help them build decks to play at league and in tournaments. Traveling hours at a time to run events that people can play in. If you think we get rich doing this and dont need any of the things you "stole" from us, YOU ARE DEAD WRONG!! Not to mention the chance to actually play in an event that should be exclusive to people that "work" for the game, and so we may actually have a chance to have something to be proud of.
If all you get is banned, I will be disappointed. I cant imagine you wouldnt deserve criminal charges being brought up, but its not my decission.
People like you make me really second guess why I do what I do for this game, I bet your parents are really proud.:nonono::nonono:
LionheartEX
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Being a better player is not just limited to skill. It's how you handle and present yourself at an event, and your actions that you take as an individual which may affect the enjoyment of others.
Also, Your point is absolutely moot. Jason K, for example, is better than most professors, but you don't see him gunning for the Professor Cup, or trying to cheat his way in for that matter.
We know a lot of the non-professor players are better (no offense intended to professors >.<!), the point of this cup is for the PROFESSORS who do NOT GET TO PLAY in these events the chance to kick back and participate.
So please, spare us the "He's a better player" card.
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I mean... it's just a game. People are talking about suing?! He won some packs a backpack and a trophy. Pokemon is gonna sue for like $200 bucks tops? Seems like a waste of time, you'd waste more then gain it. He'll get banned but he doesn't seem to care so I'm not gonna worry about it either.
SuperWooper
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Until one of us gains the ability to travel back in time and stop this from happening, I think we should keep posting in this thread. That way we'll remember that cheating is bad, not good.
Something like this just degrades the Pokemon community by having this spread on pokegym. We all know P!P will deal with so why continue with having this thread? This just gives people another reason to badmouth both pokemon organized play and professors who help make events possible and I see no positives in doing so besides showing to everyone how despicable Ayden is for selling items he was not allowed to win.
We all know what he did was wrong but I think having this be on the front page of Pokegym would not give people of the game a good impression of the game so why do we shoot ourselves in the foot?
PS: Having this be shown may lead to ppl thinking they can get away with stuff like this
We all know what he did was wrong but I think having this be on the front page of Pokegym would not give people of the game a good impression of the game so why do we shoot ourselves in the foot?
PS: Having this be shown may lead to ppl thinking they can get away with stuff like this
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I don't get why everyone is all over him. he did something stupid he shouldn't have, BUT in his defence: they did allow this to happen (in a way). Had he not posted this nobody would've ever known.
another point is that this could very well be a troll.
another point is that this could very well be a troll.
Nick15
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If I may be so bold as to ask this, but if lying to the staff is apparently so easy, how will you prevent this from happening in the future?
I also certainly hope that the current (that is, pre-Aydan Aires) Professor system does not simply ASSUME people are telling the truth and that there IS regular fact-checking of players? Otherwise, why even bother using P!P IDs if they're not going to state if someone is a Professor or not NOR are if they're even CHECKED to confirm that the P!P ID number is even legit?
I don't want to believe that the P!P (and/or an individual staff member) is SO careless that "yeah, I'm a Professor" is enough to get someone into a Professors Tournament.
My belief that the P!P staff is equally at fault for allowing this to happen depends on:
* If the P!P DOES have a system of checking P!P ID numbers and that the individual staff members merely neglected their duties;
* An individual P!P staff member knew Mr. Aires and snuck him in,
* If the P!P simply does NOT have a system for checking Professors and simply accepts players at face value ("yeah, I'm a Professor")
* Somehow the P!P system got hacked and Mr. Aires forged his Professor status, such that all the checks on his status came up "legit" and he was able to play.
Now I could be wrong, and I welcome you to correct me on this and explain how it's not the P!P's fault at all. But from where I stand, it's the P!P's responsibility that individual players adhere to the rules AND to ensure this system is protected and guaranteed to all, to the degree that any failure of this system and of P!P's responsibilities to the players is P!P's fault. I also feel that it's the P!P's responsibility to ensure that their staff follow proper procedure, and that even if an P!P staff member acted against set P!P staff guidelines, their actions still represent P!P. Just as my actions at work--such as badmouthing customers and calling the foul names--is just as much my responsibility as it is the company who hired me.
Of course, and I can't stress this enough, the P!P accepting responsibility for what happened does NOT absolve Mr. Aires from what he did. He lied to the P!P Staff and got into something he shouldn't have, and thus should face the consequences of his actions to the full extent of the P!P's jurisdiction. However, I feel that "The Buck Stops Here" is NOT just some fancy catch phrase and thus is a standard which I feel the P!P (and all other individuals and organizations in a leadership position) should try to uphold.... to the degree that trying to blame someone else for their own inability to protect their jurisdiction is probably the most irresponsible thing anyone or anything can do.
Now I'm not trying to be a dick by bring this up, but is it wrong for me to feel that the P!P is better than not only allowing this to happen, but to also accept responsibility for when it has, seeing as somewhere along the line there was a lax in their standards? And I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way too; that is, I can't be SO out of touch that I didn't realize that people today feel that "being responsible for one's actions" means blaming everyone else around them?
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Gym Leader Blaine:
I hope this doesnt mean the end of the Professor Cup. This is an event TPCi puts on for Professors that work hard and give back to the game. They don't owe the Professors an event, they do it as an extra bouns. It just takes one to ruin it for all.
I doubt it. By the sound of it, it was an individual staff member who dun goofed when they were registering players, for not checking to see if Mr. Aires was a Professor. That's why I feel that P!P should take responsibility for that staff member's actions and say something as simple as:
"We now realize that [one/several] of our staff member
I feel that this is all that this situation will take. And hopefully that is what'll happen. I mean, I love Nintendo and the Pokemon TCG and hold them to high standards! I always expect that they will do the right thing, and I'm sure this will be no different! As such, I doubt that the Professors Program nor the Professors Cup will be negatively affected by this. In fact, just like Sony, this little bloody nose will only make the P!P stronger!! (^_^)
Since this was edited out, putting it back here.
As I said above, every word of this is news
As I said above, every word of this is news
Aydan Aires said:What’s This? An Average Kid Snuck into the Professor Cup… And Won?!
Written by Aydan Aires | August 2, 2011 | 2 comments | 85 views | Rating: +1
I’ll be the first to admit it. I’m a fraud. What started out as something to pass the time ended up being something FAR more serious. I won the North America 2011 Professor Cup Championship. And I’m NOT a Professor.
To get into the Prof. Cup, you had to BE a Professor and rack up points by running a league or judging events. It’s a competition to award the hard-working men and women who make this game possible; and I soiled its good name.
So, why am I saying this now? Why can’t I stay quiet and pretend I was always a Professor? Well, here’s some reasons:
It’s a winning National tournament report and I think it’ll be interesting.
I feel guilty winning expensive prizes when I shouldn’t have.
I’m taking a 4 year break from Pokemon since I’m depressed from what I did. (Actually, it’s college. )
I think it’s pretty cool I ended up winning.
And most importantly, it’s been a while since I’ve written an article.
The Professor Cup
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How I Cleverly Got In Registration
It was Sunday, the day everyone leaves from Nationals. It was also my dad’s birthday. However, we weren’t leaving early. My ride and buddy, Zach, was in the Professor Cup. I had helped him with his Blastoise/Floatzel water deck for the Cup so I knew the basic rules.
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Zach and I talked about me attempting to enter the Prof. Cup. Why not? I had nothing else to do while I waited. JP, my friend/mentor who was with us, wanted to use my Yanmega Vileplume Deck.
He told me that if I managed to get in, then I’d use his deck. JP did awesome at Nationals with his deck! He was playing Reshiram/Typhlosion or “Reshiphlosion” and made top cut!
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Anyways, I went up to registration and wrote my name down. I told the registers that I was new to all of this and held my own league (which I do!). They said they would look into the matter to make sure I was a judge. I thanked them knowing that if I was unable to play then it wouldn’t be a big deal to me.
We all joked what would happened if I would eventually win the Professor Cup… haha…
When pairings went up, my name was on the list and Aydan Aires was ready to wreak havoc in the Professor Cup!
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The Coin I Earned
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- 22 Black and White Pokemon Packs – I ended up selling all of these for $30
- Amazon Kindle – My Dad has it to this day but we’re probably selling it for Laptop money.
- A Professor Backpack – I gave this to Zach who, in return, paid for my gas and hotel costs.
- A NICE Trophy – It’s being sold on eBay. I know this might get flamed.
- An Invitation to Worlds 2011! – I’m kidding.
Final Revelation
Hands down, don’t do what I did. I’m sure there’s going to be some sort of consequence for my actions and I’ll accept it. I don’t expect anybody to honor me for what I did but I felt like it should’ve been said.
Now, it might be low that I’m selling the trophy, but my family is having some money issues right now. Kent State University is very expensive. So, I’ve been selling all of my Pokemon merchandise so I can pay for my food plan and get a laptop.
I’m going to be on hiatus status for the next 4 years. I’ll probably be at every Nationals, but I’ll just borrow a deck from some of my good friends.
That being said, I’ll probably still be active in the Pokemon community doing research for my friends for future tournaments.
All in all, this was my first Nationals and I loved it. I can’t wait to see all fo you next year. And until then, See ya!
Ohhhhh, wait a sec. Who wants to buy the trophy? It’s very nice and one of a kind. Here’s the link: [removed]
Congratulate me or diss me. I’ll take all comments to heart.
Aydan Aires
right, it's alllll the fault of the staff and volunteers who worked the professor cup...
after all, if OP hadn't held a prof cup with prizes, dude would never have done this, it's not his fault!!11!
/sarcasm
'mom
after all, if OP hadn't held a prof cup with prizes, dude would never have done this, it's not his fault!!11!/sarcasm
'mom
For those blaming the staff:
Yes, someone screwed up.
Will that person or persons be publicly humiliated over it?
No, that would be ridiculous. I'm sure they are kicking themselves over it.
They made the mistake of trusting someone.
If someone's going to make a mistake, that's the best one to make.
Will Pokemon take steps to ensure something like this doesn't happen again?
Darn sure they will. However, I don't expect them to come onto a public message board and outline them. Especially since they just learned about this happening.
I just hope that whatever they do doesn't, as a side effect, punish those that work events all year long.
That would be the biggest tragedy.
Yes, someone screwed up.
Will that person or persons be publicly humiliated over it?
No, that would be ridiculous. I'm sure they are kicking themselves over it.
They made the mistake of trusting someone.
If someone's going to make a mistake, that's the best one to make.
Will Pokemon take steps to ensure something like this doesn't happen again?
Darn sure they will. However, I don't expect them to come onto a public message board and outline them. Especially since they just learned about this happening.
I just hope that whatever they do doesn't, as a side effect, punish those that work events all year long.
That would be the biggest tragedy.
Again I would like to say, what purpose does having this thread provide? It doesn't provide discussion just people pointing fingers be it at Ayden or the Professors or others. P!P will deal with the the violator of the rules so continuing hating on each other will do nothing. I think Pokemon has the best community of all competitive TCG but ppl arguing like this and pointing fingers I'm pretty sure leaves a bad taste in everyones mouths.
Nick15
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Hiding the fact that bad stuff happen is not healthy for ANY community. That is to say, if there is no way to air our grievances, then the steam will only built up and explode at some point in the future in a way I doubt anyone would want to see happen.
If, however, we choose to discuss this matter later (if at all), we merely postpone the inevitable, because it'll happen again if this doesn't get solved right here and now.
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