Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

What has Pokemon TCG really become?

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Krucifier said:
Excuse me Sam...

People have a right to be angry with you, from some people's view, you had no right to be representing Australia at world's with a deck that could NEVER work...Despite everyone telling you NOT to, and going 0-3 drop. Unfortunately Sam, some people are saying "Why can't the Australian National champion win a single game at worlds?" You should not have gone 0-3 DROP. If you played it out - odds are you MIGHT have won a game...

IMO, People who drop only care about winning.

I am not making this a witch hunt, but Sam, you have done some pretty stupid things recently that have annoyed alot of Australian players.

I have told you on several occasions to stop affiliating yourself with Jason. I stopped. And I am alot better off. Why should you stop playing until after Christmas? is it because that is what Jason is doing? You see, that is one of my points - YOU are letting SOMEBODY ELSE control your FUN.

Sam, as a wise person once said to me, and I will quote him, and I will include the name too.



And I believe one of the reasons your fun has been drained away is because you keep taking decks off the Internet. Last year...in 06' you did very well. You know why. Everyone knows why. It is because you played ORIGINAL decks. This year, your quality has slipped, because you have been net decking all year. And it is also the reason that you fun has been drained away.

Sam, I respect you as a player, and as a person...And I am telling you now as a friend, do not quit for a while just because Jason is, dismantle your arche-types, build a rogue deck or two, come to league and play...Not to win, but to have fun.
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lol, why should it matter to you if he went to worlds with a sorry deck?
Plus, who cares if he dropped? There was no point, he obv couldnt win and im sure he would like to do other things in hawaii that day then play in a tourny he had already lost -_-"
 
There are definitely some egos in the game. I don't know if they have suddenly appeared out of nowhere. I think I just haven't met the people with those attitudes until now.

I do feel 10- kids have the absolutely best outlook on the game. They also have the best SOTG and respect for their opponents imho. Go 10-!

Play for the fun, stay for the prizes. I guess some people have it the other way around.
 
It'z weird how where the games been at lately:

Teams
Secrets
Whos better than who
Sour Grapes

You put all that in one piece and beef is about to hit harder then ever! As you can see it has.

It really doesnt bother me but it has bothered a majority of other players.

These things dont make pokemon bad nor a bad TCG. Its above MTG, YGO, VS, etc IMO.

Say what u want about pokemon in 03 they took something thought to be in the ground to something with over thousands of people across the world and growing to this day.
 
Krucifier said:
What striked me as a bit...Well...Odd was the fact that only you and Khion raised their hands for Judging at Nationals this year. I guess that goes to prove what a valuable resource Khion and you are.

Honestly, I would love to Judge events, but apparently I am too young. Without Khion here in Brisbane...We are losing somebody who gladly dropped their other things to judge events. And we are left with just one, Robert. To my knowledge Khion is passing the baton onto Robert.

I do not think that anybody can do as good as a job as Khion did, but I hope Robert can try. Robert has tried to run our League to the best of his ability - with our limited resources and our ever dwindling numbers...

It is pretty much down to if Rob goes, Pokemon here dies.

I do not have any clue if people have figured it out yet - but people LL's and TO's are people too. Treat them badly - like Khion has been treated, and they do not have to stay there and take it anymore. They can pack it up and BOOM. No more League. No more Tournaments.

From how much I know of Khion - it takes alot to make him go to the point of what he is doing. As I have said, we can only wish him success down in Melbourne.
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There are a variety of reasons for my move, one of which is the Pokémon situation. And as Pidgeot5 stated:
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It's good that some people realise that someone does have to run it, I've run a lot of things and have coped a lot of stuff that I'd rather have avoided in my time, and that doesn't exactly make me jump up and down saying pick me pick me when someone asks who wants to run or judge something.
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I agree with this. I've copped a lot of flack over various issues, and also just in general, a lot of which I would have rather avoided. However, these things have happened, and as such nothing can be done. The only thing to do now is to repair the damage that has been caused and then help promote the game and get people interested again, and get support back for the game.

Honestly, as far as how much annoyance I can take, I can take quite a fair bit. I still said I would judge the 2007 Australian Nationals, even after people had abused me and others about that and other things in the past. I did it for the community and Vickey.

The majority of players in Brisbane have dug their own graves. They've done this before and I've always been there to dig them out of it and repair the damage they've caused, whether it be to the player base in Brisbane or to the community as a whole. Who's going to dig them out now? It certainly won't be me. I've tried to help the Brisbane community but a lot of people don't want my help because a lot of them are stubborn and arrogant.

I've had my rant on the issue, but yes. I will be leaving the Brisbane community, and to those there that I respect, I am sorry.
 
I also agree with Krucifier. I'll gladly admit I play the TCG simply because I think it's fun. Sure, prizes and such are nice and all, and going to Worlds would be a blast one day (I've been playing ever since it came out, never been to Worlds/Super Elimination/w/e). It's just that people have a "must win" attitude and such...

I also never pay attention to the teams either. I mean, who really cares if so-and-so from so-and-so team won some event? Heck, if I wanted a team-ran environment, I'd play Yu-Gi-Oh or something. But Pokemon is nice in that you don't have to be affiliated with something/one in order to enjoy the game itself.
 
Regis_Neo said:
I also agree with Krucifier. I'll gladly admit I play the TCG simply because I think it's fun. Sure, prizes and such are nice and all, and going to Worlds would be a blast one day (I've been playing ever since it came out, never been to Worlds/Super Elimination/w/e). It's just that people have a "must win" attitude and such...

I also never pay attention to the teams either. I mean, who really cares if so-and-so from so-and-so team won some event? Heck, if I wanted a team-ran environment, I'd play Yu-Gi-Oh or something. But Pokemon is nice in that you don't have to be affiliated with something/one in order to enjoy the game itself.
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Agreed sir. Pokémon is a game of fun and enjoyment...however some people just take it too far. Like all games I s'pose
 
It's very interesting to hear about some of the shenanigans that go on on the Mainland. As a Tasmanian involved in the TCG, our Island State seems somewhat (not completely) insulated from events on the long shores. However, we are relatively new on the Australian scene (first states this year) and may simply be experiencing a honeymoon stage. The TCG here, however, might be based on some basic differences to the Mainland that I'm not completely clear about, excepting one point about younger players.

Anyway, we host one of the top 15 (numbers wise) leagues in the world. Per capita, this is a remarkable fact. Also, most of the players are in the younger age categories - the opposite of what is seen on the mainland. The disastrous nature of OP atm - we didn't receive price support for well over 7 months - didn't stop the league growing considerably. This makes me believe that the fun actor - the game itself - sustains young people's interest enough to keep them coming regularly and squeezing into the venue every Saturday afternoon.

I see a lot of camaraderie there, the atmosphere is almost wild with excitement and the energy generated is fantastic. This shows me that the TCG can be extremely healthy and enjoyable without the prize factor perhaps acting to corrupt the purity of basic competing and socializing. (I'm not saying forget prizes :), just noticing that they haven't been crucial to a great atmosphere of gameplay).

If us older players can perhaps take something from what younger players bring to the game, it might better balance some of the heavier baggage we carry over our shoulders with the lightness of pure fun-ness and the lift of exuberance that just playing gives. Sometimes, it seems, we just take ourselves too seriously. :)
 
I agree with Zegnarfol. Why can't we just loosen up a bit? I recall an unlimited tournament held down here which was dubbed "Metranome". In between each round the TO rolled a dice and the number on the dice detemand what nasty little challge you had to play with (like double prizes or and the end of your turn discard cards equal to the number of Pokemon on your bench). It was great fun. Everyone was mucking about just enjoying these insane challanges.
That's what this game's all about: fun. Prizes, fame, being the best are all just a big fat lucky bonus.
 
Zegnarfol and Envoy,

I'm moving to Melbourne for the reasons stated above, plus some. I agree with both of you. But its when people decide to take things too far that other people get annoyed.
 
Hey, this thread had a nice start, and albeit I don't appreciate the hate towards Team M, which is rather tame in that regard compared to its direct competition, it would still be nice if this thread was kept on track without all of the "olol meanwhile back in australia..." posts, save those for another day.
 
DarkJake said:
Hey, this thread had a nice start, and albeit I don't appreciate the hate towards Team M, which is rather tame in that regard compared to its direct competition, it would still be nice if this thread was kept on track without all of the "olol meanwhile back in australia..." posts, save those for another day.
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The thread is about the Australian community, but also has some relevance to the Pokémon community as a whole.

I agree, bagging out a single team is inappropriate, so lets all keep on track.
 
So basically, you're all mad that the people who win are confident. I'm pretty sure winning gets them bragging rights.


POKEGYMMM IS MADDDDDDD YOU MADDDDDDDDDDDDD
 
Yeah, obviously you can't tell when teams are joking =\

(loling at first post btw, not to be rude or anything. I would post more, but I am rly tired atm, and sad about metanite(check thread))
 
moza said:
Yeah, obviously you can't tell when teams are joking =\

(loling at first post btw, not to be rude or anything. I would post more, but I am rly tired atm, and sad about metanite(check thread))
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Sometimes the things posted look so serious, a lot of people cant tell when you're joking, and it's freaky sometimes.
 
I'm moving to Melbourne for the reasons stated above, plus some. I agree with both of you. But its when people decide to take things too far that other people get annoyed.
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Yay - It's people like yourself that the baggage is scapegoated onto - released into the desert to appease the wrath of the gods, so to speak. Being a strong and wise administrator/judge, and so on, is vital in keeping the boundaries within which the fun-ness maintains its direction and momentum without tipping into chaos. Being pushed by undue criticism doesn't make this role any easier ... leadership does come with its share of obstacles.

On topic - apart from the fun-ness that this TCG generates, it's future is also dependent on the brass in charge of its running. That's why I worry about what happened to our OP Manager. What will become of the TCG without passionate and effective management? The LD here has as far as I have seen not indicated any intent to have a dedicated OP Manager or the will to make this happen. I know that external forces are growing to change this stalemate. When this phase finally settles, the game here can then show its potential to not only grow as a gaming system, but also as a community of friends and mentors in the best sense of the term.
 
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