Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

What has Pokemon TCG really become?

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Mloclam said:
This post shows you know nothing about the game so please dont bother to explain anymore.
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Actually, I do- I have played both games since Yata-Chaos was rampant- I know what I'm talking about.

Pokemon has less cards than Yu-Gi-Oh! in terms of choice, but plenty more viable deck choices- that's the way it's always been.
 
Personally, I say bravo. XD Well-said, and well-written introduction post.

And I agree. I quit (well, went on hiatus) 2 years ago for the same reason as what you're saying now. To me, it felt that it was more of a competitive enviroment than a fun one.

However, with championships come competition. Unless they completely demolish POP, championships and all, then there's no way to get rid of the "win-at-all-costs" attitude many players have grown to have.

Sadly, I don't know anything about these teams (maybe they developed after I left), but it's the immature, noob-ish players who say those things. Those who are more mature will debate over whose team is better, not flame one another.
 
I agree with all of the above comments about the game.

PokeFreakNikki said:
Personally, I say bravo. XD Well-said, and well-written introduction post.

And I agree. I quit (well, went on hiatus) 2 years ago for the same reason as what you're saying now. To me, it felt that it was more of a competitive enviroment than a fun one.

However, with championships come competition. Unless they completely demolish POP, championships and all, then there's no way to get rid of the "win-at-all-costs" attitude many players have grown to have.

Sadly, I don't know anything about these teams (maybe they developed after I left), but it's the immature, noob-ish players who say those things. Those who are more mature will debate over whose team is better, not flame one another.
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*applauds* Well put. I left the game for a while because of the fact that when I was in the 11-14 age bracket, I was always losing and though I was having fun to a point, I was getting picked on for losing so much. So I left. A few years later I came back and decided to become an organizer rather than a player so I could prevent this sort of thing from happening.

Unfortunately, as you put it, the "win-at-all-costs" attitude seems to be running rampant. Sure its good to want to win, but when some people go so far as to cheat just so they can win, then it gets sad. The game is meant to be fun, and I think a lot of players have forgotten that fact.
 
Krucifier said:
Excuse me Sam...

People have a right to be angry with you, from some people's view, you had no right to be representing Australia at world's with a deck that could NEVER work...Despite everyone telling you NOT to, and going 0-3 drop. Unfortunately Sam, some people are saying "Why can't the Australian National champion win a single game at worlds?" You should not have gone 0-3 DROP. If you played it out - odds are you MIGHT have won a game...

IMO, People who drop only care about winning.
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I just wanted to interject here..... I noticed that many americans have stayed away from this topic, with good reason. It doesnt involve them.

I like to think that I am a quality player. I build new archetypes and set the metagame for many areas in the United states. This above reference has me quite disturbed.

First of all, I want to let you know that SAM earned the right to play WHATEVER deck he chose to. I do not care if he dicided to play with a sailor moon deck and get disqualified. HE EARNED THAT RIGHT!! If "everyone telling him" had a clue what to run they would have been there to make that particular decision.

Second, Who cares about winning a game after 0-3? What is there left to prove? Oh, I beat up on the pokemom from XYZ country.... MAN I FEEL GOOD!!! Give me a break. We were in Hawaii for crying out loud. I also went 0-3 drop. SO WHAT ABOUT IT? I like many others made a terrible deck choice and it failed me. THIS WAS MY DECISION AS I EARNED IT, Just like sam.

Third, While I do not only care about winning, it is a nice perk while playing. If I am not in a position to win the tournament, I will drop to playtrest with others, trade, help in the younger age groups, or whatever I feel like doing. I just seem to find other things that make my time more useful.

Krucifier, I respect what you are trying to do for the OP in your area. However, I recall reading somewhere in this thread.... In order to fix some things you must first start with yourself.
Obviously you know that you are part of the problem as you stated in post #1. Good luck and I hope everything works out.

Jimmy
 
BANGINBOX said:
I just wanted to interject here..... I noticed that many americans have stayed away from this topic, with good reason. It doesnt involve them.

I like to think that I am a quality player. I build new archetypes and set the metagame for many areas in the United states. This above reference has me quite disturbed.

First of all, I want to let you know that SAM earned the right to play WHATEVER deck he chose to. I do not care if he dicided to play with a sailor moon deck and get disqualified. HE EARNED THAT RIGHT!! If "everyone telling him" had a clue what to run they would have been there to make that particular decision.

Second, Who cares about winning a game after 0-3? What is there left to prove? Oh, I beat up on the pokemom from XYZ country.... MAN I FEEL GOOD!!! Give me a break. We were in Hawaii for crying out loud. I also went 0-3 drop. SO WHAT ABOUT IT? I like many others made a terrible deck choice and it failed me. THIS WAS MY DECISION AS I EARNED IT, Just like sam.

Third, While I do not only care about winning, it is a nice perk while playing. If I am not in a position to win the tournament, I will drop to playtrest with others, trade, help in the younger age groups, or whatever I feel like doing. I just seem to find other things that make my time more useful.

Krucifier, I respect what you are trying to do for the OP in your area. However, I recall reading somewhere in this thread.... In order to fix some things you must first start with yourself.
Obviously you know that you are part of the problem as you stated in post #1. Good luck and I hope everything works out.

Jimmy
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Yup thats exactly right. No one can be told off for a deck choice. Like Adam and Jimmy said, we all thought we made the right play, but we didn't (me and Jimmy know of all people ;_;)
 
Banginbox.

I personally do not give a rats about Sam going 0-3 drop. People gave him advice, and he did not have to accept it. What has be annoyed was that people were saying that "The ozzie nat champ cant win a game liek lawl".

A distinct reference to you? I simply said people who drop only think about winning. Sure it *MAY* have been in Hawaii...
 
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Banginbox.

I personally do not give a rats about Sam going 0-3 drop. People gave him advice, and he did not have to accept it. What has be annoyed was that people were saying that "The ozzie nat champ cant win a game liek lawl".

A distinct reference to you? I simply said people who drop only think about winning. Sure it *MAY* have been in Hawaii...
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Jimmy made a great post. I don't know why you're responding in such a rude tone, as you do to alot of other people.

People drop, because they would rather hang out with their friends instead of playing meaningless games. Especially at worlds, where you don't need practice in the old format, dropping to party with all of your friends who are there makes alot more sense. The only reason NOT to drop would be if you wanted to help your friend's tie breaker.
 
desert eagle said:
Jimmy made a great post. I don't know why you're responding in such a rude tone, as you do to alot of other people.

People drop, because they would rather hang out with their friends instead of playing meaningless games. Especially at worlds, where you don't need practice in the old format, dropping to party with all of your friends who are there makes alot more sense. The only reason NOT to drop would be if you wanted to help your friend's tie breaker.
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Well actually I have a bit different view on the dropping.
Of course it's a decision made by the player, but I would keep in mind that you are invited to play that tournament.
For me it's a bit ungrateful.
Meaningless? Yes, if you talk about earning prizes.
But your host did try to organize a complete 6 rounds tournament for you, to play it out is for me a sign like "thank you for doing this".
 
Rainbowgym said:
Well actually I have a bit different view on the dropping.
Of course it's a decision made by the player, but I would keep in mind that you are invited to play that tournament.
For me it's a bit ungrateful.
Meaningless? Yes, if you talk about earning prizes.
But your host did try to organize a complete 6 rounds tournament for you, to play it out is for me a sign like "thank you for doing this".
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So would be dropping out to hang out with friends- and truly enjoy the experience. Once you see you're not going to win, It becomes a meaningless fight and you lose hope and it wouldn't be as fun as going out to lunch or just hanging out with people you'd be lucky to see once a year.

Either way, imo, both would be a respectable decision and everyone would understand why you dropped. I think POP for EVERY tournament they run- it gaves me a chance to rack my brains out and hang out with my friends. I played, and at 0-3, or even 0-2, I had already lost that event- we all KNEW the outcome of those who had a similar record.

Of course we are invited to play in that tournament, and of course, people want us to play til the end- however, it already IS the end if you have that record.
 
Krucifier said:
Now there is nothing wrong with Teams, I think they make the game better. But when they get all arrogant and cocky, "aww...We got the 2002 World Champion in our team! yeah! fear us!". Or just post utter garbage like "our team rules"...
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I bet you'll love my signature, then.
 
LionheartEX said:
Actually, I do- I have played both games since Yata-Chaos was rampant- I know what I'm talking about.

Pokemon has less cards than Yu-Gi-Oh! in terms of choice, but plenty more viable deck choices- that's the way it's always been.
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congrats for playing both games. But saying

"Yu-Gi-Oh! either has a metagame of 3-5 decks, and encounters absolute randomness from there on out. You can't afford to strategize and build your deck properly based on the metagame, because there's too much netdecking involved."

That shows me you are probably absolutely terrible at ygo.

Pokemon metagame is not much more than 5 decks and you clearly do not understand what can be consisdered a viable deck in ygo.

I could go on and on but just to seal it I will focus on your last sentence. If there is too much "netdecking" involved then wouldnt it make it easy for a good player (which, obviously, you are not ) to think up a deck which would prove as an effective counter to the metagame?
 
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