Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Why M&Ms (Eeveelutions) are going to become Archetypes - A TC-EE Production

I think that theres going to be a fair few decks with Scizor, so Flareon might be a worthy investment in Eeveelutions decks.
And not only will Omastar rid them of their DRE and Scramble, but when followed by a wager all that the Eeveelutions player will have left is 4 Eevees.
Have fun with that.
As for "you cant do that when Glaceon is active!", who's to say that Glaceon is always going to be active?
And I really wouldn't be surprised if Omastar decks also play Lati-lock anyways.
 
Niether of which should be seeing play with either Leafeon or Glaceon.

Pardon? No DRE abuse with Leafeon? Who can let you attach two of ANY energy every turn, including specials?
Are you ALWAYS planning on having bodies, no backup plan? No techs at all in the deck? You don't ever plan on attacking with an Espeon or anything like that?

Leafeon doesn't care if the energy is basic or special; it's attack still will do twenty more damage for having the extra DRE on the table. Sounds to me like unless you're running the redundant Togekiss (You already have energy accel. Why waste space in the deck for inconsistant cards with non-useful pre-evolutions?), you're doing more harm then good by not using a few DRE.

Heck, Leafeon decks get screwed PERIOD by Omastar, as long as Omastar never sees the active position. Leafeon LV.X turns into little eevee needing two more turns to start doing its overkill attack again. If you Rare Candied Sceptile... Whoops. Your Claydol or whatever you're using to help set up... Whoops.
 
Pardon? No DRE abuse with Leafeon? Who can let you attach two of ANY energy every turn, including specials?
Are you ALWAYS planning on having bodies, no backup plan? No techs at all in the deck? You don't ever plan on attacking with an Espeon or anything like that?

Leafeon doesn't care if the energy is basic or special; it's attack still will do twenty more damage for having the extra DRE on the table. Sounds to me like unless you're running the redundant Togekiss (You already have energy accel. Why waste space in the deck for inconsistant cards with non-useful pre-evolutions?), you're doing more harm then good by not using a few DRE.

Heck, Leafeon decks get screwed PERIOD by Omastar, as long as Omastar never sees the active position. Leafeon LV.X turns into little eevee needing two more turns to start doing its overkill attack again. If you Rare Candied Sceptile... Whoops. Your Claydol or whatever you're using to help set up... Whoops.

Lers take a look at what combo's with Leafeon, shall we?
Blissey, Magmortar, Glaceon (it doesn't, but evidently some people think otherwise), Sceptile

-Blissey gains no benifit from DRE, Scramble is useless, so basically only Boost would be in here (which goes away at the end of the turn, so Omastar does nothing to it).

-DRE lower's Magmortar's bench damaging abilities, so playing it with him is just =/ (even though using him over Blissey is still bad). Again, Scramble is useless because the speed you should be powering up Magmortar means things die quickly.

-Glaceon deals bench damage as well, meaning DRE hurts it alot too. Again, fast damage dealing=Useless Scramble.

-Sceptile turns your grass into double grass, meaning using DRE is silly.

Anything I missed? The way I see it, nothing Leafeon works well with goes with DRE and/or Scramble.
 
And if you have a few dres/scrambles on a magmortar/blissey, you're going to have to pull a warp down anyways to get rid of them. And honestly, what decks are teching in omastar? Magmortar? Cause glaceon/vaperon doesn't wreck that already. Plox? Why? Fossil decks? They exist? lol. Ummm, what else is there in this format? Empoleon already beats most eeveelutions anyways, unless they get a really good start. So I don't see omastar anywhere besides fossils and maybe bad empoleons.
 
Would Omastar {MD} beat Eeveelutions? I would think that you could just evolve back into Eeveelutions afterwards. None of the pokemanz are Rare Candied.

hah, but noone would play omastar if they could just evolve them back. 1, thats still a turn when they could get an eevee, and 2, they would WAGER. its not that omastar is great, its that wager complements it.
 
PLOX lives off the DREs, Scrambles, and Rare Candy. Putting Omastar in PLOX makes perfect sense for the Mirror IMHO. It's not bad against a ton of other random decks out there too. That mags on the bench with a scramble will not like it ... and even with Empoleon and Vaporeon Mags will still get some play. Arithmetic uses DRE for Banette and Gyarados. Beedrill could loose a ton of steam to a well times Omastar + TGW. Of all the Regionals top cut decks Skittles and T2 Doom with Cess seem to be the least likely to take a big hit from Omastar.

On the flip side I'm really suprised that more folks aren't taking about Vaporeon and Flareon.
 
And honestly, what decks are teching in omastar? Magmortar? Cause glaceon/vaperon doesn't wreck that already. Plox? Why? Fossil decks? They exist?

oh, loads will be teching them!!! dont you know how powerful that is? its not just eeveelutions, its also pokemon that have been candied, meaning they wasted a rare candy! and with wager (as stated before) it is detrimental!

honestly, i even see omastar being the only hurtful thing towards G & G in the new set...
 
oh, loads will be teching them!!! dont you know how powerful that is? its not just eeveelutions, its also pokemon that have been candied, meaning they wasted a rare candy! and with wager (as stated before) it is detrimental!

honestly, i even see omastar being the only hurtful thing towards G & G in the new set...
And you waste a candy playing omastar. And you need to have the wager also in hand when you drop it. If you want the surprise factor, you need to keep the fossil in hand. Count the cards. That gives you 2 cards in your hand to work with in most decks with claydol. Think about how badly that slows down your deck. And how do you plan on getting fossil in the first place? Fossil exavator? Only way to constaly get it. Otherwise you're hoping on drawing into a candy, fossil, wager, and omastar (reember you can't celio's for it or the surprise is gone). There goes all the speed of most decks. All of this is happening and you have to hope to not get wagered. If you do, you have to start the whole process all over again. And if you don't see anything that hurts GG in this set you're not looking very hard. Theres so many pokemon that overwhelm Plox. Magmortar will see alot less play now (if at all...) and thus all of these decks can pop out of nowhere and crush Plox.
 
Glaceon and Omastar works over here. Both benefit from the same search cards Eevee deck need in general. Furthermore, the hand denial trainers complement both of them. Third: Both feature a bench destruction theme. Sounds like a rather reasonable combo to me. also given that Eevee searches out it's own kind and Helix Fossil has a built in Candy and Celio's Network; both simultaneously triggered by a basic water energy attachment. At the time Omastar benefit's Glaceon you can afford to attach a basic water energy to the fossil and evolve into Omastar next turn. Just tech in 2-3 Warp Point to handle possible Cessation Crystals or opposing Glaceons. Same principle applies to the water equivalent of Groundon which is more popular over here then the Glaceon version this deck idea started with. Magmortar would be another deck to benefit from Omastar and the hand denail draw and shuffle cards. However, for some reason this has not been tried thus far over here.

Hi Rai,

Wouldn't Omastar just remove Leafeon L.X in your example and leave Leafeon still attached to Eevee in the case of a benched Leafeon L.X you described in your scenario?
 
Omastar decks playing Latilock??I know most wil have Kabutops in the deck and that would hurt that part of your deck.
 
Omastar decks playing Latilock??I know most wil have Kabutops in the deck and that would hurt that part of your deck.

Wrong. The only deck that has Omastar that will have Kabutops is fossil decks, which will not be a majority of the decks that see play.
 
Emp DP with Omastar PK was tried during cities somewat,I mean what would be the difference just because its a power and not a attack or what???,cuz I mean it just seems like a tech
 
I love eeveelutions a lot and because of this I study them and their power.

Eeveelutions have always been very complex and never able to be played by themselves. They also tend to be very expensive.

Looking at this new generation of them it will be very hard to play. Eeveelution must have the perfect trainer and energy line to work at all. Consistancy is also very hard to have with them.

So while your article is nice they are not going to be a very good archtype anyway.
 
Not really Spirt of Mew,I mean they all arent supposed to be in the same deck. Thats how people think thats the way they work which isnt true. I mean they could work together but it dosent happen like that. Espeon/Umbereon are the support for them, Jolteon is for a Raieggs type of strade,abuse DREs and Scrambles to do 90/80 a turn and 20 for 1 to paralyze isnt bad,Flareon is to burn and discard just the same as Vapereon. I mean Eeveelutions is a deck all its own that can cover all itts own weaknesses.

Vapereon/Glaceon>Fire
Leafeon>Fightning(some)/Water(some)
Jolteon>Water
Flareon>Grass/Metal
Umbereon>Psychic(ghost)
Espeon>Psychic/Fightning

only thing it wouldnt have is a fighting type or metal type.Any deck needs a constitant trainer line and pokeline to work well,this is just another example.
 
Emp DP with Omastar PK was tried during cities somewat,I mean what would be the difference just because its a power and not a attack or what???,cuz I mean it just seems like a tech

I am now fully convinced you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Turning it from an attack to a power is HUGE.
1. You can Devo then wager.
2. You can Devo then KO something you just Devo'd.
3. We didn't have Claydol to give Empoleon consistant draw back in cities.
4. The new Empoleon is INFINITLY superior to the old one.
5. New fossil means that pulling Omastar is easier to pull out.
Seriously, was comparing it to the old Omastar and the old Empoleon with 2 new sets added in between the best point you could make? At least try a valid point in your next arguement.
 
Not really Spirt of Mew,I mean they all arent supposed to be in the same deck. Thats how people think thats the way they work which isnt true. I mean they could work together but it dosent happen like that. Espeon/Umbereon are the support for them, Jolteon is for a Raieggs type of strade,abuse DREs and Scrambles to do 90/80 a turn and 20 for 1 to paralyze isnt bad,Flareon is to burn and discard just the same as Vapereon. I mean Eeveelutions is a deck all its own that can cover all itts own weaknesses.

Vapereon/Glaceon>Fire
Leafeon>Fightning(some)/Water(some)
Jolteon>Water
Flareon>Grass/Metal
Umbereon>Psychic(ghost)
Espeon>Psychic/Fightning

only thing it wouldnt have is a fighting type or metal type.Any deck needs a constitant trainer line and pokeline to work well,this is just another example.


I understand what you are saying, but they are hard to use which ever way you look at it. Most of the time they rely on eachother to function well. They will be good but they will be best as rougue as many people will not know how or what to correctly combo them with.
 
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