Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

We, the players of the Pokémon TCG want more TIME!

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8:00 A.M.? You're joking, right??? Who gets up that early?

Just a little bit of info: US Nats Staff / Judges had to be in the event area by 7:30am or 8:00am every morning. The event venue was already open at that time for us and any players that got there early that wanted to play / trade.
 
With six rounds the difference between 45minute match play and 30 minute single game in the swiss is 90 minutes. Last year top cuts were capped. This freed up venue time at many events. So what to do with that extra time?

Not every venue will be able to offer 45minute 2/3 swiss rounds. My personal opinion is that those that can, should. Who doesn't want to spend more time at the tables playing?
 
At States and above, the schedule would break down because the extended matches, then the posting of records for all to verify for correctness (gotta stay up a few minutes to give everyone a chance to review), then print out pairings and posting them. Then, the players need a few minutes to find their seats and start the set up process. 10 mins between end of rds and the start of the next is next to impossible to do. Especially when you have to imput 100 or so matches each rd.

Keith
 
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I've always been a fan of 30 min +x number of turns (3 or 5 seems right)...
--Jordan
 
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I myself do not have a problem with the current timing rules and with everything else that is going on.

This is a great article, but no matter how many of these come up i really don't think that POP will do anything about the timing issue
 
When I first started playing I thought 30 minutes was too short, as my casual games were taking about 45-60 minutes. But, as I got a little more experience, I've hardly had any games go to the time limit. For Swiss, I think 30 min is a good amount of time. For best 2 of 3, 45-60 minutes should be sufficient.
 
What do you say to the judge to get them to come and watch for a bit ... I know i would find it a bit akward to say to a judge , My opponent is playing slow and trying to stall to win and even more so if it was one of my friends I was playing

Maybe in top cut don't have it that who ever wins the first one if time is called they win the second as well but instead who ever has the most prizes wins and if it each player has won one game then they go into overtime or w.e with one prize ( forgot the word for it )
 
What do you say to the judge to get them to come and watch for a bit ... I know i would find it a bit akward to say to a judge , My opponent is playing slow and trying to stall to win and even more so if it was one of my friends I was playing

Maybe in top cut don't have it that who ever wins the first one if time is called they win the second as well but instead who ever has the most prizes wins and if it each player has won one game then they go into overtime or w.e with one prize ( forgot the word for it )

That is exactly what you say, friend or not. Ask the Judge to monitor the game tempo, they usually will and give the necessary penalty, if it is warranted.
 
I think tournaments should not start earlier, Sunday is the only day for some people (like me) to sleep late and there are people who travel 2 or 3 hours to a tournament. When you start at 9 o'clock and you have to travel 2 and a half hour, you have to wake up at 5:30. Thats really early, also some people playtest until late in the evening and when they have to wake up that early, they didn't get enough rest and they will be irritated and stressed which is not good for the Spirit of the game.
 
I just got back from the LaFonte Tournies in Chicago. Jimmy used both the 25 + 5 and a straight 45 min. structure. Guess What??? G&G went undeafeted to win both....... Personally I liked the + x structure -although I think 3 is probably enough.
 
If they just had 8 prize cards instead of 6, I totally would of won that match. =/

In all seriousness, I think the 30 minutes is plenty...just deal with it.
 
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30 is enough it seems like the only players that are complaining are the GG players. Guess what if I had 10 more turns I coulda won a game. There is always a reason why you coulda did better. I do like the 30+1 turn so that way on your turn when time is called you finish and then your opponent can get 1 last turn. You can always say if I had blank I could win. Time is part of the game deal with it everyone.
 
30 is enough it seems like the only players that are complaining are the GG players. Guess what if I had 10 more turns I coulda won a game. There is always a reason why you coulda did better. I do like the 30+1 turn so that way on your turn when time is called you finish and then your opponent can get 1 last turn. You can always say if I had blank I could win. Time is part of the game deal with it everyone.

It seems to be the opposite. It happens to be the player who DON'T play GG wanting more time. I agree with them. 5-7 minute turns is just insane. I mean it just makes it a bit unfair if you don't play GG.

Drew
 
I am not in favor of extending the 30 min time limit. Remember not all players who participate can handled 45 min matched or 1 hour best 2 out of 3 swiss. My daughter has finally started playing, she has an impressive attention span for a 4 1/2 year old, but I do not think she could concentrate though a tournament of 45 min rounds.

When discussing these rules changes is important to think how they will impact all age groups who participate in Pokemon organized play. The problem is not with the time limit, but with the current end of game procedure. It gives way to much of an advantage to the player whose turn it is when time is called. I was horribly stalled out once in the Sierra Nevada Regionals once and if I had one more turn I would have KO's his EX for the win.

This year with G&G it is I who has been winning on the finals turn to be able to have one Pokemon with a switch pokepower and an attack that automatically KO's an opponents Pokemon (If it is tied for the lowest amount of remaining HP) is just sooooo broken. That is why we should adopt Japans end of time procedure and have the game end when time is called, and after both players have had one last turn.
 
I am not in favor of extending the 30 min time limit. Remember not all players who participate can handled 45 min matched or 1 hour best 2 out of 3 swiss. My daughter has finally started playing, she has an impressive attention span for a 4 1/2 year old, but I do not think she could concentrate though a tournament of 45 min rounds.

When discussing these rules changes is important to think how they will impact all age groups who participate in Pokemon organized play. The problem is not with the time limit, but with the current end of game procedure. It gives way to much of an advantage to the player whose turn it is when time is called. I was horribly stalled out once in the Sierra Nevada Regionals once and if I had one more turn I would have KO's his EX for the win.

This year with G&G it is I who has been winning on the finals turn to be able to have one Pokemon with a switch pokepower and an attack that automatically KO's an opponents Pokemon (If it is tied for the lowest amount of remaining HP) is just sooooo broken. That is why we should adopt Japans end of time procedure and have the game end when time is called, and after both players have had one last turn.

See you bring up a good point, but it kinda is irrelevant. I think most of these players are stating for just WOLRDS to have a 45 minute time limit. I personally don't want to see a 45 minute time limit during the regular premier events. Worlds is special, and therefore should have it's own rules if they are needed to be accomadating.

Secondly, a 4 1/2 isn't going to drag the game out purposely, where the problem is older Seniors and Master players who actually know what they are doing. Most Juniors are playing for fun, not for the prizes which is what I would think most Masters players are playing for.

Stalling is a problem, but I am not sure there is one way to truely combat it. I really feel that the best way to handle stalling is that if your are called for stalling you shouldn't be allowed to win on time. Just if your were late to a match. The problem is each judge has a different thought on what is okay and what isn't. Even though POP has guidelines some are either need revising or are not enforced. Giving time to setup is a big one. Most times we are suppose to get 2 minutes BEFORE a round begins but a lot of times that isn't given. Just think how much difference 2 minutes could make.

I agree with some of your points, but some I don't. I could write all day on my thoughts on stalling and time limits, but I just feel it is one of those things that needs to be taken really seriously by everyone to actually get fixed. It is getting better, but a permant solution is something that might always be lacking unfortunately.

Drew
 
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