I wouldnt rule it out, Kansas obviously needs to meet a good offense, once they do they going to get beat. Missouri will probably be the one to knock Kansas out of the title game.
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I wouldnt rule it out, Kansas obviously needs to meet a good offense, once they do they going to get beat. Missouri will probably be the one to knock Kansas out of the title game.
HurricaneWarty
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Yeah Mizzou is going to beat Kansas this Saturday, but Oklahoma is going to bring them back to reality in the Big XII Championship game. And also I dunno who it was that said opponent's schedule and how bad you beat people is taken into account in the BCS, but that is totally wrong. It isn't like that anymore. The only thing's that affect your BCS ranking are your Coaches Poll ranking (1/3) your Harris Poll ranking (1/3) and your 6 computer rankings averaged (1/3). So the only way Mizzou is #1 is if LSU loses bad, WVU loses bad, and they beat Kansas bad.
Also, WVU has a top 15 D. They've played amazing this year and have actually kept them in games when the offense was having a few struggles. I don't have the stats in front of me but I think they are #13 nationally in total D and are something like #19 in scoring D.
Also, WVU has a top 15 D. They've played amazing this year and have actually kept them in games when the offense was having a few struggles. I don't have the stats in front of me but I think they are #13 nationally in total D and are something like #19 in scoring D.
Just because I'm pestimistic and I root for LSU, I need to say something as a side note.
LSU has a very hard schedule coming up. I know, you're thinking, "Arkansas? They are horrible," but Derrik McFadden could put a few points up on LSU.
Then if they get past that, Tennessee or Georgia could both get into the SEC Champ game, depending on the outcome of the Tenn VS Kentucky game. Georgia is the better team, but both will most likely create quite a struggle.
Let me repeat myself. LSU has a long way to go to prove itself worthy.
Vegeta ss4
Iron Chef Leader
NATIONAL TITLE GAME
Missouri 45
LSU 13
You head it here 1st!!!!
Since I said what I said, I will say that we will jump ahead of WV!!!
It has already been stated by so many coaches and on ESPN and such that if both teams(WV, Mizzou) win out then Missouri will jump ahead of them based on strength of opponent.
Missouri 45
LSU 13
You head it here 1st!!!!
Since I said what I said, I will say that we will jump ahead of WV!!!
It has already been stated by so many coaches and on ESPN and such that if both teams(WV, Mizzou) win out then Missouri will jump ahead of them based on strength of opponent.
WOW! What an upset. This is why NCAA ball is awesome because it is unpredictable of what can happen every week.
Who would've guessed that McFadden, soon to be McMADDEN COVER, would dish out his best game of the year today.
So Kansas has #1 if they win and Mizzou has #2 if they win.
I don't know about you but it's looking pretty clear now that those Buckeyes are going to the National Championship.
Who would've guessed that McFadden, soon to be McMADDEN COVER, would dish out his best game of the year today.
So Kansas has #1 if they win and Mizzou has #2 if they win.
I don't know about you but it's looking pretty clear now that those Buckeyes are going to the National Championship.
HurricaneWarty
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That isn't quite it, but a part of it. The computer rankings average 6 computer rankings that have, up until a couple of years ago, not been used in polls that matter. It takes things like the Sagarin rating, Anderson & Hester and few others. Each of those "Rankers" for lack of a better term use strength of schedule for one of their components, but some do not used points scored (Sagarin) or margin of victory (Anderson & Hester). So average victory, SOS, etc. are an extremely small part of your BCS ranking.
Looks like Kansas-Missouri is for a spot in the National Championship game too after today! Although I think Oklahoma will have something to say about that. McFadden makes a HUGE Heisman statement as LSU falls in triple OT again! Also USC looks to be in the driver's seat to the Rose Bowl after they feasted on ASU, thanks in large part to ASU's defense forgetting how to tackle. 200+ yards after contact is unexplainable. I hope Hawaii gets into the Sugar Bowl after tonight, but again they still have 1 more game. Also, with Boise St. now out of the BCS picture I hope somehow the Vegas Bowl finds a way to put them against BYU, it will actually give us 1 good bowl game before the January games.
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bullados
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The Big 12 Champion will play in the National Championship. I've been saying this for the past week.
LSU losing is GREAT news! Ohio State will go to the National Championship game if both ZonaSt and WV lose, leaving the Illini at the Rose Bowl. Heck, Hawaii might even get into the National Championship game after beating Boise St.
The BCS is goin down
goin down
goin down
The BCS is goin down
And everyone is happy!!!
LSU losing is GREAT news! Ohio State will go to the National Championship game if both ZonaSt and WV lose, leaving the Illini at the Rose Bowl. Heck, Hawaii might even get into the National Championship game after beating Boise St.
The BCS is goin down
goin down
goin down
The BCS is goin down
And everyone is happy!!!
Well Arizona State lost to USC on Thursday so they're out of it. Ohio just needs either Oklahoma to win the Big 12 Championship or West Virginia to slip up. Oklahoma if they win the Big 12 Championship cannot make it in. They have to many teams to surpass and they have 2 losses.
Hawaii can't make it to the championship game now because they're not even in the top 12 of the BCS rankings to start this week off. Sure they might get in to the top 12 if they beat Washington next week but they can't go to the championship now. Maybe a Fiesta Bowl but not the BCS Championship bowl. As much as most of us would like to see Illinois make a BCS bowl the chances are slim. The top 10 teams losing aren't really helping them because those teams will still be in the top 10. They need teams like Tennesse, Boston College, and Hawaii to lose. And if Ohio makes the championship game which is becoming more of a possibility I think the Rose Bowl selection commitee would be going straight for the stats so Michigan would have the lead on Illinois for that despite that in real life, Michigan dropped their final two games to Big Ten opponents.
bullados
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Again, Illinois is the 2nd place team in the Big 10 to end the season. The Rose Bowl likes having Big Ten vs. Pac Ten. Historically, if the top team from either conference is playing in another bowl game (National Championship game, for example), then they take the 2nd place team. I can't see them doing anything different here. Again, the tiebreakers in the Big Ten are 1. Big Ten record, 2. Overall Record, 3. Head to Head. OSU gets into the National Championship game, then Illinois goes to the Rose Bowl.
Didn't realize that Zona lost. I like this. I need to repost the song, just for emphasis:
[song]
The BCS is goin down
goin down
goin down
The BCS is goin down
And everyone is happy!!!
[/song]
Hawaii is bound to move up to the top 10 this week after beating the #19 team Boise St. If they win out, then why SHOULDN'T they be in the National Championship game? Especially if Kansas or WV lose?
The Big 12 Champion should still be in the National Championship game. I'd be surprised if that team wasn't in the game, even Oklahoma. Probably the only way that doesn't happen is if Mizzu beats Kansas and then loses to Oklahoma, who lose to OkSt today.
And, just cuz I liked it so much, one more time!!!
[song]
The BCS is goin down
goin down
goin down
The BCS is goin down
And everyone is happy!!!
[/song]
Didn't realize that Zona lost. I like this. I need to repost the song, just for emphasis:
[song]
The BCS is goin down
goin down
goin down
The BCS is goin down
And everyone is happy!!!
[/song]
Hawaii is bound to move up to the top 10 this week after beating the #19 team Boise St. If they win out, then why SHOULDN'T they be in the National Championship game? Especially if Kansas or WV lose?
The Big 12 Champion should still be in the National Championship game. I'd be surprised if that team wasn't in the game, even Oklahoma. Probably the only way that doesn't happen is if Mizzu beats Kansas and then loses to Oklahoma, who lose to OkSt today.
And, just cuz I liked it so much, one more time!!!
[song]
The BCS is goin down
goin down
goin down
The BCS is goin down
And everyone is happy!!!
[/song]
Even though I am an LSU Fan, I am just wondering if alot of these referees, coaches, of teams and such is taking payoffs to allow other teams atop the BCS.
This year I endured Les Miles and he does some of the most horific play calling to the point up to the Auburn game that I wondered if he wasnt getting paid off to lose games but the players wasnt allowing it to happen.
Seems whoever is in control of this is eager to get certain teams in the BCS NC game, I think they want Ohio St in it again this year and with LSU sitting up there, OSU would never get it, but now that LSU is out, Ohio St has a large choice of top teams they could face that wont be a challenge. They did that in 2003 when LSU won, I dont know if USC could of beaten LSU or not, but OU was a team that shouldnt of even been in the NC Game. Same thing going when they kept putting USC in the NC game, I think they thought Texas was going to get blown out but ended up winning it over USC, they put OU the next year I think it was or the year before that, and OU wasnt even the ones who should of played USC for the NC game, result was OU getting blown out. Perhaps Auburn should of been in the NC game that year as they were undefeated in the SEC nonetheless.
Now we got this BCS mess with the top teams like Kansas, Mizzou, West Va, you just know a big money school like OSU is going to slip in and try to get handed a National title, this seems to be a occuring thing going in college football now for years, only thing that foils the plans of these payoffs is players coming out above the playcalling, or in last years case, OSU was favored to win but got blown out by Florida, why? because payoffs wasnt needed when everyone thinks they know OSU was going to beat Florida but didnt happen. I am sure they going to find a way to get USC into the rose bowl to since they wont make the NC game.
This year I endured Les Miles and he does some of the most horific play calling to the point up to the Auburn game that I wondered if he wasnt getting paid off to lose games but the players wasnt allowing it to happen.
Seems whoever is in control of this is eager to get certain teams in the BCS NC game, I think they want Ohio St in it again this year and with LSU sitting up there, OSU would never get it, but now that LSU is out, Ohio St has a large choice of top teams they could face that wont be a challenge. They did that in 2003 when LSU won, I dont know if USC could of beaten LSU or not, but OU was a team that shouldnt of even been in the NC Game. Same thing going when they kept putting USC in the NC game, I think they thought Texas was going to get blown out but ended up winning it over USC, they put OU the next year I think it was or the year before that, and OU wasnt even the ones who should of played USC for the NC game, result was OU getting blown out. Perhaps Auburn should of been in the NC game that year as they were undefeated in the SEC nonetheless.
Now we got this BCS mess with the top teams like Kansas, Mizzou, West Va, you just know a big money school like OSU is going to slip in and try to get handed a National title, this seems to be a occuring thing going in college football now for years, only thing that foils the plans of these payoffs is players coming out above the playcalling, or in last years case, OSU was favored to win but got blown out by Florida, why? because payoffs wasnt needed when everyone thinks they know OSU was going to beat Florida but didnt happen. I am sure they going to find a way to get USC into the rose bowl to since they wont make the NC game.
It should go to head to head before Overal W/L.
Hawaii does not deserve to go to the National Championship according to the polls and computer because they have a strength of schedule of 119. One of the easiest schedules of the year according to the BCS. Their best win is against Boise State who lost to a losing season Washington team.
Im not sure how they determine SOS. But I look at teams like OSU who has 1 loss hasnt faced anyone all year, they never do and they already back into the title hunt. goes for almost any conference outside Pac10 and SEC. They just need to implement a playoff system somewhere, because alot of these teams since the BCS came to be dont belong in the NC game. Practically since 1998 I think when the BCS came to be, its pretty much always handed 1 team or another the crystal ball.
doctormcdreamy
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GOOD JOB MISSOURI!
as of this post. the game isnt over yet. but might as well post about it. Missouri played really well. and played perfectly.
my 2 point favorite kansas jayhawks just didnt get hot till late in the game. which was too late. 2 turnovers getting returned for 2 td's. that didnt help. cold weather didnt help. 2 missed fg's didnt help.
but if your gary pinkel. cant ask more out of chase daniel. mizz, go get them sooners. and go get that national championship. big 12 north all the way, baby.
as of this post. the game isnt over yet. but might as well post about it. Missouri played really well. and played perfectly.
my 2 point favorite kansas jayhawks just didnt get hot till late in the game. which was too late. 2 turnovers getting returned for 2 td's. that didnt help. cold weather didnt help. 2 missed fg's didnt help.
but if your gary pinkel. cant ask more out of chase daniel. mizz, go get them sooners. and go get that national championship. big 12 north all the way, baby.
Pokeplayer
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LSU loses......Kansas loses.....I think if Hawaii wins next week as the only undefeated team they should play as the no. 2 seed against Missouri, West Virginia or Ohio State...
Just my two cents...
Just my two cents...
Vegeta ss4
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Well Mizzou won, IN DOMINANT fashion. The score doesn't reflect the game IMO, Missouri just destroyed KU's D but costly and stupid fouls is what kept the game close. Take away half the fouls that MU had and they easily had 48 points. KU's offense didn't do much either IMO, KU just threw the ball and they got some lucky catches IMO. I just can't beleive LSU lost, Now Ohio State gets a chance(oh well, whoever they play, Ohio State will get WAXED!!!)
Also, here are the latest polls, and no shocks at all.
1.Missouri 11-1
2. West Virginia 10-1
3. Ohio State 11-1
4. Georgia 10-2
5. Kansas 11-1
6. Virginia Tech 10-2
7. LSU 10-2
8. USC 9-2
9. Oklahoma 10-2
10. Florida 9-3
11. Boston College 10-2
12. Hawaii 11-0
13. Arizona State 9-2
14. Tennessee 9-3
15. Illinois 9-3
16. Clemson 9-3
17. Oregon 8-3
18. Wisconsin 9-3
19. BYU 9-2
20. Texas 9-3
21. South Florida 9-3
22. Virginia 9-3
23. Cincinnati 9-3
24. Auburn 8-4
25. Boise State 10-2
Mizzou will beat Oklahoma, then they will beat WV!!!!
Missouri is just too good, and they are so young, just like KU, after this year, next year may be just as exciting.
Also, here are the latest polls, and no shocks at all.
1.Missouri 11-1
2. West Virginia 10-1
3. Ohio State 11-1
4. Georgia 10-2
5. Kansas 11-1
6. Virginia Tech 10-2
7. LSU 10-2
8. USC 9-2
9. Oklahoma 10-2
10. Florida 9-3
11. Boston College 10-2
12. Hawaii 11-0
13. Arizona State 9-2
14. Tennessee 9-3
15. Illinois 9-3
16. Clemson 9-3
17. Oregon 8-3
18. Wisconsin 9-3
19. BYU 9-2
20. Texas 9-3
21. South Florida 9-3
22. Virginia 9-3
23. Cincinnati 9-3
24. Auburn 8-4
25. Boise State 10-2
Mizzou will beat Oklahoma, then they will beat WV!!!!
Missouri is just too good, and they are so young, just like KU, after this year, next year may be just as exciting.