Idea for a Gym Leader system

[David's Confused Pokedad]

Battle tower rules are ok, just to keep it simple, and that also covers the obnoxious legendaries. If we leave it up to the GL for their battle format, then they should be unable to change it once they've decided.

Im neutral about wobby, think that should be a vote.
If GL's decide how many pkmn to fight with I think it should be between 3-6 and so if they have 3, 2 will be of their type. 4 will require 3 of their type. 5-6 will require 4 of their type.

I think GL's should be able to swap out their team at any time as long as it still follows the overall rules and their rules.

Obviously replacing GL's is undesirable, but if someone does stop battling, we should have a back up or two ready to take their place.

So it looks like we should vote on the following issues:
Number of pkmn fought with?
a. Up to GL
b. Static amount

Battle rules:
a. Follow Battle tower rules
b. Anything goes
c. no duplicate pkmn, but duplicate items allowed

Battle format:
a. Decided by GL
b. static (and if this is decided, lvl 50 or 100 || double or single)

Time between challenging same GL:
a. GL can wait for a week before the rematch
b. Should be less downtime than a week?

If on last GL should 3 losses get you the badge?
a. yes
b. no
c. no, but if you only have one GL left, you should be able to challenge them more frequently

Allow Wob?
a. yes
b. no

Allow Soul dew?
a. yes
b. no

Should GL's be able to swap their team in and out?
a. yes
b. no
c. yes, but with restrictions

And, there is no way we should have more than 8 GLs. One for every type is unnecessary, and we dont have THAT many people.
Also, how do we want the voting to work for GLs. We can have everyone vote for the rules in a format like what I presented, but electing GL's is a bit more difficult. Should people be able to vote for themselves? How many votes does each person get?

Answers in bold. -David

 

[vaporeon]

This did pick up kind of fast.

We can use the battle tower rules as a base line but everything else is up to the GL. I feel that maybe a vote should be placed pretty soon based on the rules alone. I know this is still discussion but some people if not all do have common ideas and like Pikamaster said, a sleep clause is a must because you have many Pokemon with a high speed stat like Gengar or people will have a dedicated sleeper or 2 on their team which will put the GL in a bad spot. Thunderwave is one thing but no sleep clause is almost total disablelazation... Is that ever a word?

As for gym leader types, if the main type you use has a second type, you can use it, like Metagross.

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Actually i think that these steps are needed to get this started:

(Listed in order of importance)
1 - Get a set of rules set up.
Keeping a list of simple rules (Pokemon/level/format) is a must. Inventing rules that the DS cannot replicate (Like sleep clause etc.) should be avoided. More advanced rules like that will detour people from wanting to enter, and thus will cause the downfall of the system. I believe that this is one of the major reasons why people did not participate.

2 - Set Gym Leader guidelines.
Some will be obvious like availability, but other guidelines must be established.

3 - Elect Gym Leaders.
This will be up to the masses, but the person wanting the position will have to nominate themselves. By nominating yourself, you agree to abide by the guidelines.

4 - Recruitment.
Getting more people into the forums means more participants. When the other 3 steps are finished, there will be a small waiting period. During this period, we should advertise the heck out of this.

Once these steps are completed, we will have officially have lift off. Anybody else have anything to add to this?

Reading this again and this is a really solid list here.

 

[wigglytuff!]

Why not have up to 3 gym leaders in one type? If one gym leader can't battle at certain times or something another could do it then and that also means more than one person could battle a gym leader at a time.

 

[ultimatedra]

Why not have up to 3 gym leaders in one type? If one gym leader can't battle at certain times or something another could do it then and that also means more than one person could battle a gym leader at a time.

Because if i am going to be giving compensation to the gym leaders for doing this, i do not want to triple the amount i am going to pay for them.

Also, there are not a whole lot of people who come into the electronic games and post, so having 3 gym leaders for 8 gyms will be useless if we only have 5-6 people participating.

 

[vaporeon]

Why not have up to 3 gym leaders in one type? If one gym leader can't battle at certain times or something another could do it then and that also means more than one person could battle a gym leader at a time.

I know not everyone will be able to play at all times, just like the GLs in the show are not always there but the GLs are going to have to accept a certain number of challenges a week.

 

[Pyro Entite]

I think if we can get this going we should start off small. I know thats how every thing works lol. Then if it gorws big enough we can see if other pokemon site will sponcer it. Then we'll have more people coming and if the sites would help with some small prizes then we can exspan to having more GL's for each gym so we can cominsate for the bigger demand for the battle. Maybe it will even help the site gorw bigger and then the other poke forum site would have to try to do something to be the gym. If that happens not saying that it will set in stone but them maybe we can have a battle with an other site in the gyms and tournaments just for fun.

 

[trainerjeff]

I agree with most of this stuff, but Sleep Clause is a must. There are many fast sleepers out there that can have roar, and that can screw any team over.

there is a reason that there is only one move that has 100% acc for sleep moves and only 3 pokemon can learn them. if people want to try to spam low lvl moves and fail why not let them, givces me a turn or two more to set up or kill

 

[Kayle]

If you're scared of sleep, play Platinum. The Sleep Clause is completely useless there because the most common sleep move is ac 55%. Spore is learned by a few Pokemon whose speed is pretty much nonexistent - even if they CAN get a sleep off, they'd be pretty stupid to Roar.



I just had an interesting idea, though. To get around the problem of team countering, do we really need themes? It would be interesting if there was some other ranking system, or maybe even not a ranking system at all - just a set of Gym Leaders, who may or may not be stronger than others. No need for themes in that case.


Just throwing that out there. I know lots of people are very set on the concept of type-defined gyms, but that's impractical. Any theme can be countered, really; in fact, even just posting your team publicly as part of your gym challenge will make it susceptible to being countered, no matter how carefully planned that team was.

 

[Pyro Entite]

Well if I was a fire GL my team that I have right now would be able to fight off counters. I have some fire tpyes with ground fighting grass pyschic steel and dark moves so I would be able to work around a counter just a bit. In aways that would be good for a GL to battle teams that have a way to counter other then just types so then they would have the exp and make them just the much harder to beat. You can realy call your self a GL if every one that comes in can bet you with a team thats not a counter type. So I think that if they make it were people just can't bring a type counter team in then it should be good. Like I said my fire team has a big list of different moves to use. The GL's have to just be a little smarter then the challengers in the team making part and with them being a single type of gym then the GL would be able to acount for the types that people would be trying to counter with.

 

[Arcanine/Arbok Master]

Like ultimatedra said, an easy way to prevent this is to allow 1/3 of their team to be whatever they want. This seems fair.

 

[Chompy]

I could be the Dragon type gym leader. It would be alright if there was dual-types, but as long as you have EVERY Pokemon of the SAME type.

 

[Lucario EX]

Will there be any future chances to become a Gym Leader, or is that it until someone quits after the first GLs are chosen? I think maybe only allow GLs to keep their position for a year, then choose new ones. JMHO.

 

[Chompy]

I think this thread should be on the Front Page, where everyone can see it. If not, then it should be stickied in my opinion.

 

[vaporeon]

I was think that. We have new votes every year.

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Will there be any future chances to become a Gym Leader, or is that it until someone quits after the first GLs are chosen? I think maybe only allow GLs to keep their position for a year, then choose new ones. JMHO.

If you can front page this, it could help a lot.

 

[ultimatedra]

I was think that. We have new votes every year.

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If you can front page this, it could help a lot.

I think that it should get front page rights when you have SOMETHING confirmed. Rules have not even begun voting (Personally i think that having rules should be first, but oh well)

 

[Pyro Entite]

Thats what I was thinking to. That we should change every year also we should do it around the first of the year so that we know it's been a year but the IMO.

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I thank that most of the rules that we have talked about here sound great but yeah rules should be one of the first thing made out so everyone knows what it is they had to abide by as both a GL and a challenger.

 

[Arcanine/Arbok Master]

Ya I think to avoid any bias in voting the best way would be:
1. Come up with list of rules to vote on and have everyone vote
2. People interested in being a GL submit "application"
3. We vote on GLs
4. Person with most votes chooses their gym type. Then the person with 2nd most votes chooses their gym type...on down the line until all have chosen (obviously no one picking a type that someone else already picked).

Seems like were getting ahead of ourselves, but progress is still nice.

 

[vaporeon]

I thought we should pick leaders and then make the rules.

 

[Benzo]

How will back-up GL's be figured into this? If someone is unable to be a GL ( for a short time or perminent for the year)- would the person who fills in have to be the GL gym type or could that person who fills in be a different gym type?

 

[Pyro Entite]

Well I think if you are going to fill in for a gym you would have to be that type. Just saying that if you were to fill in for the flying gym and you didn't have one flying type pokemon then it couldn't count as the flying gym and what if you were to pick the fire type as you are fill in for the flying gym then we'll have two fire gyms and no flying gym. Then what if you were to stay in that spot was the gl then no one could get the flying badge because no one is being the flying gl. So yeah I thank that you would have to have the type of pokemon that the gym your fill in for has stated.