Kids Missing School to Attend Worlds

[Pokemaster1110]

Yup, mistah stevenson. that's 'cause we're stupid americans =)

Here's a stupid question. How will we play with them? Have they all learned english or something? Translators? See, it wouldn't be a problem for some people, like me...

Konishwa (however it's spelled)

Oooohhhhwwwwaaa! Attakiy youoooooo BEEEXXX!!!!


I apologize if I have offended anyone. But then again, I'm a stupid American, so kiss my Grimer!

 

[Cyrus]

You don't need any of that. At TMB, they had translators for all necessary verbal communication. However, just making moves without stating it verbally was just the thing to do, since most people who play at worlds have a lot of these good cards memorized.

 

[Ultramew]

What happens if there's a conflict with translations? I'm saying for instance, with Slowking, in Japan it only works while active, and in America it works from the bench. So what happens when two Slowking Decks face each other? Who's ruling do we go by?

 

[Monkey]

Well, we can't play Slowking, so it really wouldn't matter now haha. But probablly the Japenese version.

 

[MrMeches]

Kinda Getting off Topic here.. need to start a new thread about all this..

To us, the Kids Missing school is kinda Trivial since it is usually Review the First Week! I see where it could disrupt the High and Junior High Kids more so than my 2!

 

[marril2k]

Sorry to take this off topic...

What happens if there's a conflict with translations? I'm saying for instance, with Slowking, in Japan it only works while active, and in America it works from the bench. So what happens when two Slowking Decks face each other? Who's ruling do we go by?

As stated in the Pokemon Organized Play handbook...

Card Interpretation Tournament judges will base their card rulings and interpretations on a card, based on the event location’s local language. Major tournaments that span multiple countries will default to the original intent and design of Pokémon cards produced in Japan. Pokémon Organized Play will issue card rulings based on that information.

Here's a stupid question. How will we play with them? Have they all learned english or something? Translators?

Well, I hosted a Japanese exchange student last April, and we had no issues communicating... and we both learned more about each other's languages in the end, but the Japanese exchange students knew enough english to at least play the TCG (yes, I brought him to my league...). Besides, what about the other non-english speaking countries... I'm sure translators will be on locations in the real nessarry event they are needed.

And now on topic... I'm planning on it... luckally I start the 26th

-marril

 

[Psyducky]

My son doesn't start school until September 7th and the community college my husband teaches at doesn't start until the END of September. It's a good thing, too, since we have to fly across the country for this World Tounament. The last one was a mere 20 minute drive from home.

As Pokemon Professors, we both think Zane will learn more from this trip to Worlds than he ever could in a classroom setting!

 

[Psyducky]

(I know, bad, bad parents!!)

I'm sure we're not the only ones in this situation.... Just wondering how others are planning on handling this....

Thanks!

NO PARENT THAT SUPPORTS THEIR CHILDREN IN POKEMON (AND YU-GI-OH, THROUGH PTA, ANY EXTRA-CURICULAR ACTIVITY, ETC.) IS A BAD PARENT!!! :thumb:

 

[PokemonTrainer D]

Well,
Trent will be missing Fri, Mon, & Tues. ;-)!!! The fines are normally only for parents whose children
consistently miss school for no reason. Trent missed many days last year. I provided doctors notes
for most but not all and everything was fine. I think it is mostly for deadbeat parents or money grubbing
school districts. Most principals would see the cultulral/educational value of children from so many
different backgrounds being together and participating it such an event. Even if we were to get a fine
I would still take my son. I think the benefits far out wiegh the money involved. As far as lying about
why he's not in school. It doesn't make sense when we all know they are going to talk about it LOL.

I also think that perhaps there could be a time when the majority could attend without having to miss
school. A little communication and alot of coordination should do the trick.

See you guys at worlds.

 

[Ice'Cold]

Yeah, hopefully this can be fun for everyone.

 

[SD PokeMom]

I shall attempt to explain...

You see, Japan cares nothing for the U.S. players, so long as we keep buy cards and spending money. So when a big thing like worlds happens, it doesn't matter what the reality is, or what's right, wrong or logical. It matters what is best for JAPAN. And PUSA and POP are too busy kissing TPC's butt to explain that it would have been better to have the worlds in July, so another 200 or so players from america, the country it's being held in, can make it. But then again, that would be logical and fair...

And since when has TPC been concerned with ANYTHING like that?

*sigh* This comes up EVERY TIME a major event is scheduled.

There is NO WAY TO SATISFY EVERYONE. Period, end of sentence.

Every school just in the US doesn't use the same schedule; hell, even the different school districts here in SD County are on different schedules...traditional, year-round, track A/B, etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum.

If there isn't a window that would satisfy _everyone_ in the US, then how the hell are POP/PUI/TPC supposed to find a date that would work for _everyone in the WORLD_?

The folks at POP/PUI do the best they can, with the requirements they get from TPC. And why shouldn't they do what TPC directs: have you forgotten whose game this is? There are holidays in Japan they have to work around, timing-wise just as they can't schedule a major event during Xmas or Thanksgiving. Just because mid-July might work for YOU (which is not necessarily the case for EVERY school district in the US, BTW) doesn't mean it works for anyone or "everyone" else.

Yeah, it sucks when the timing isn't right for YOU. Oh well. Just like this same topic always comes up when locations for events are announced. And no, I'm NOT going to Worlds: I was invited to judge, but had to turn it down because of other family obligations that same weekend. Am I disappointed? Of course...but that's life, and being an adult, with adult responsibilities.

'mom

 

[Team Cook]

*sigh*

You would think that it would make MORE sense to work around the common schedule and holidays of the country the event is being held in.

If the event was being held in Japan, of course, it would make sense to work around the Japanese schedule.... But it's being held in the US.....

And yes, there are always exception to every rule. Therefore, year-round school aside, generally speaking, in this country, the good ole US of A, June and July are generally summer vacation months.

And I agree that PUI is doing a great job. This has nothing to do with that. We are wondering (and some are coming up with their own conclusions and opinions -- right or wrong, we don't really know) why the decision was made to have it late in August. That's all.

 

[Freddy K.]

Yeah, it sucks when the timing isn't right for YOU. Oh well. Just like this same topic always comes up when locations for events are announced. And no, I'm NOT going to Worlds: I was invited to judge, but had to turn it down because of other family obligations that same weekend. Am I disappointed? Of course...but that's life, and being an adult, with adult responsibilities.

Well said, SD Pokemom... :thumb:

Anyway, the first few days are crucial in terms of establishing agreed classroom rules and procedures etc., that's the importance attached to the 'establishmaent phase' as it's known in the business as well as getting all the new books, starting new topics etc.

Ironically I would be able to get time off from work (as a high school teacher), most probably fully paid too - it's at the discretion of the Headteacher and the board of Governors here, and in the past I've been allowed to attend the European Stadium Challenges etc. through these means.

Children here would also receive permission from on the whole understanding headteachers to attend such a major event. We have people representing national sports teams at our school and they have dispensation.

Luckily August is slap bang in the middle of my six-week vacation so I have few problems... the only one I have is not being able to bring the wife and Cleffa, as she is expecting another Cleffa at the end of October and long haul flying is a clear no-no..

~fK

 

[Team Cook]

Luckily August is slap bang in the middle of my six-week vacation so I have few problems... the only one I have is not being able to bring the wife and Cleffa, as she is expecting another Cleffa at the end of October and long haul flying is a clear no-no..

~fK

Congratulations! And may you and your wife have a healthy, bouncing Cleffa!

 

[Dek]

I hope they move it around... Disney World is nice, but I don't want to go there every year!

I have dealt with something like this before since I'm part of the FIRST program (FIRST stands for For Inspiration and Recognition in Science and Technology for those who dont know. It was created by Dean Kamen, who also made the Segway). What happens (if my guess is correct) is that the organization has to make a contract with one of the officials or authorities of that specific area. So lets use this instance as an example...

PUI/TPC make a contract with Disney's CEO/Disney World's owner for Worlds to be held at Disney World (i beleive they do have to also explain WHERE in Disney World they will be holding the competition). However long Disney World agrees to is how long PUI/TPC can hold worlds at DW. So lets say PUI wants to make a 5 year contract with DW. OBVIOUSLY, as soon as 5 years are up, PUI must either renew the contract with a new offer or find a new place to hold worlds...

This kind of thing also happened with FIRST's National competition. They had a 10+ year contract (I dont remember the specific length of time) with DW to hold Nationals at Epcot center. as soon as those 10+ years were up, they made a 1 year contract with Houston, Texas (where my team won, horray). After that contract was up, they made a 4+ year contract with Atlanta, where the competition will be held at Georgia Dome.

So far, this is just my theory based on experience...

As for the entire school thingy, eh, I wouldnt worry about it. As a few have already said, the kids wont be missing much because the first 1 or 2 weeks is nothing but review, and if the kids know the stuff already, they would most likely be sleeping in class and getting Detentions for sleeping in class. Soooo, to an extent, it would be like getting your kids out of trouble. But its very good to see that some are willing to risk their own life (not in a death scenario, of course) to send their kids to worlds. It takes a lot of guts to stand up against a country's governmental power, and we see a good example of that already.

 

[GymLeaderPhil]

Let's get some things clear (and well said PokeMom)... let's look at it from another angle too!

Scheduling the Worlds event in July is simply expensive. July is the biggest month in tourism figures for the Orlando area and the worst time to schedule any event, mostly because all the hotels and attractions are flooded with people. That and our Florida weather is hot and rainy, ruining most afternoon plans to attend a water park or another outside attraction.

Locals here avoid the tourist area like a plague, but especially during the Summer. Worlds is being held late August, which is considered the start of the non-peak season. Look at the park hours if you doubt me.

I'd imagine that Pokemon USA had to negotiate a whole bunch to bring their product to Walt Disney World, with Disney AND the Wyndham. This sort of planning was done months in advance and I'd imagine there was a lot of corners cut to even have Pikachu show up in the same place Mickey Mouse resides.

That being said, unless you're being fined like Lia is for her children's missing days of school, you have no right to complain. Friday is really the only day that anyone is being required to miss, it is YOUR choice to extend your vacation prior to or after the scheduled events on those three days. I'm sure if you booked a flight to leave on Sunday evening, there would be little conflict on Monday for your children. The events on Sunday are starting and ending early for that reason. Nobody should have any problems with that.

Is it that hard for your children to ask for any missed work on that Friday and other days?
-Phil

 

[MrMeches]

Does anyone have the Times fro the Events at Worlds? Grinder and Sides...

And GLP said it best.. it is a Parent's Responsibility to decide what is best for their child.. what's 7 days gonna hurt??

 

[Team Cook]

Let's get some things clear (and well said PokeMom)... let's look at it from another angle too!

Scheduling the Worlds event in July is simply expensive. July is the biggest month in tourism figures for the Orlando area and the worst time to schedule any event, mostly because all the hotels and attractions are flooded with people. That and our Florida weather is hot and rainy, ruining most afternoon plans to attend a water park or another outside attraction.

Locals here avoid the tourist area like a plague, but especially during the Summer. Worlds is being held late August, which is considered the start of the non-peak season. Look at the park hours if you doubt me.

I'd imagine that Pokemon USA had to negotiate a whole bunch to bring their product to Walt Disney World, with Disney AND the Wyndham. This sort of planning was done months in advance and I'd imagine there was a lot of corners cut to even have Pikachu show up in the same place Mickey Mouse resides.

That being said, unless you're being fined like Lia is for her children's missing days of school, you have no right to complain. Friday is really the only day that anyone is being required to miss, it is YOUR choice to extend your vacation prior to or after the scheduled events on those three days. I'm sure if you booked a flight to leave on Sunday evening, there would be little conflict on Monday for your children. The events on Sunday are starting and ending early for that reason. Nobody should have any problems with that.

Is it that hard for your children to ask for any missed work on that Friday and other days?
-Phil

I am not sure if people are really complaining about it... Are they? I guess I should read over the entire thread again.... I, for one, am NOT complaining. I started the thread just wondering how many others would have to miss school... Then, the thread turned a little, and we wondered WHY Worlds is being held when it is... Then, people contributed their ideas, theories, opinions, whatever -- and it doesn't really matter who posted what, they all carry about the same weight. People are just speculating -- GUESSING -- at what the reasoning behind that date is. We don't really know. It could be that the decision was based on the cost issue, as you suggested. It could also be that it was to accommodate the Japanese players, as another person suggested. There could be a whole bunch of possibilities, and we really don't know the answer. We were just wondering -- wondering out loud, perhaps, but just wondering.

I am certain that there is a reason. And it really is NOT our business to ask for an answer. But, we can talk amongst ourselves. It's also okay to say that it would have been nice if Worlds was held at a date when school was not in session, is it not? Is that what you consider complaining? Because I am NOT complaining.

It is our choice to extend our stay, and therefore, it is our choice to have my son miss a week of school. You're right. It isn't a problem at all. When the SuperBowl was in Houston this year, my son missed a day of school just to attend the SuperBowl party, which was held on a school day. There are lots of other instances I can remember, but I won't go into them (just in case a school official reads this... LOL). Even if Worlds was held right plum in the middle of the school year, I wouldn't have a problem with him missing school. Fortunately, we don't have a problem with him not being able to catch up. He is an excellent student.

 

[MrMeches]

Preach it Sister!! I Reflect Team Cook.. the last I checked, this is an open Forum where ppl can "voice" their opinions and question certain aspects of THEIR lives. Is it too much to request some simple answers to obvious questions. One should step back and think Objectively to answers instead of assuming ppl are "COMPLAINING".. the only real complaint was the catering to Japanese Players adn their Time Schedules.. which were more of questions than complaining! Lighten up ppl... Jeez.. I have to burn Vacaton Time to do this event with my Son and FAMILY which is the TRUE Purpose of this thread.. Families and wanting to hear if others are feeling "Guilty" about pulling their children from school.. other questions should be started in another thread.. along with the responses to those questions!! This is for Parents and wondering what other Parents are going to do about their Child missing school!

Team Cook.. you should just have it locked so it doesn't vere off track again!

 

[Chewie]

You could use this visit to florida as a field trip. (schools do)
Go see the alligators, take an airboat ride. go shopping. You can even find endangered species in Florida, example my family. We are native Floridians several generations.

When you get home the kids can write the required essay they always have to do. (lol)