Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Non-Professor wins Professor Cup!

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Dear SD PokéMom,

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Posting apparently just for the sake of arguing

right, it's alllll the fault of the staff and volunteers who worked the professor cup...:rolleyes: after all, if OP hadn't held a prof cup with prizes, dude would never have done this, it's not his fault!!11!

/sarcasm
'mom
 
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Dear SD PokéMom,

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Posting apparently just for the sake of arguing

It's funny, you see, because you make fun of her for 'violating' forum rules while blatantly doing so yourself. Bravo.

I find a post like that almost as offensive as the actions of he who this thread regards (The new Voldemort, maybe?)
 
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Dear SD PokéMom,

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Dude: Considering people like SD-Pokemom work their butts off all year round and don't even get to play in the Prof Cup BECAUSE THEY WORK THROUGH IT, I think she's being particularly reserved.

If you feel different, please come up to me at Worlds and I'll express to you myself what she and other professors are holding back.
 
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@Nick15

I understand what you are saying but most of this thread are just some players blaming the professor cup staff for not checking backgrounds and professors placing blame heavily if not solely on the perpetrator. Both sides are at fault but ppl are just pointing fingers and not looking at the whole picture.

Everyone just needs to get some ice cream and calm themselves :)
 
I am sorry to say this, but I find this some what hilarious. I mean it is terrible that he got away with it, but the fact that it got done without getting caught at such a big event is just as much of a disgrace. I think blame should be put equally on the staff that didn't figure it out, the player that pulled it off, and his friends who didn't speak up.

I definitely understand a lot of the anger pointed toward this guy, but it isn't pointed enough toward the staff that could have stopped this from happening. I do think a lifetime ban is appropriate, and maybe a year ban for the friends that didn't speak up, I also think those that let this happen should be punished as well.

Now all that can be done is to move on and not let something like this happen again. It would have taken about 2 minutes to stop this guy from playing.

BTW, I'm still laughing and it has been about 10 minutes. My mom is laughing too
 
Kent State, hope you don't pull anything there. Colleges do not take kindly to this sort of behavior.

However, doing this marks you for anything in the future you may do. Remember, the power of the internet is amazing, and something a few years down the line could be affected by this.
 
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I think you all are tripping a bit too hard on this guy. sure he did break the rules, but it was your foult too. he admitted it and will get punished. no point raging at this guy here.
 
right, it's alllll the fault of the staff and volunteers who worked the professor cup...:rolleyes: after all, if OP hadn't held a prof cup with prizes, dude would never have done this, it's not his fault!!11!

/sarcasm
'mom

Did I say this whole situation was "alllll the fault of the staff and volunteers" fault? Or that it was ALL of the individual staff members who are responsible? Did you not read where I said that P!P accepting blame for allowing it to happen does NOT absolve Mr. Aires?

The thing is, P!P, as an organization, is responsible for the actions of their employees and staff. Individuals WITHIN that organization may not be responsible for other individual's actions, but the organization as a WHOLE is. This is the very foundation of, well, organizations; individual members represent the organization they're working for in every way, good and bad, and as such it is the organization's responsibility to ensure their employees and staff properly represent them by their actions (and to reprimand those who don't follow the rules and thus make the organization look bad). Just as, as the head of a family, parents are responsible for the actions of their children (at least until they turn 18). Unless you're going to tell me that the actions of an individual employee/staff/volunteer does NOT reflect anything on the organization/company that hires them? C'mon.

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PokePop:

For those blaming the staff:

Yes, someone screwed up.
Will that person or persons be publicly humiliated over it?
No, that would be ridiculous. I'm sure they are kicking themselves over it.


I wouldn't expect anything else. Maybe being figured individually and be made a SPECIFIC example of, publicly at least, would not be best for P!P's public relations. As such, it would be enough to state "those who were responsible for letting it happen will be spoken to, and we apologize for their actions". INTERNALLY, however, I'm sure P!P will state to their staff "it was wrong for Mr. John Doe and Mrs. Jane Smith to do what they did, and so we are going to make sure this doesn't happen again". Of course, however P!P deals with it internally is their business.


They made the mistake of trusting someone.
If someone's going to make a mistake, that's the best one to make.


That frankly is the ONLY thing I would blame P!P for... or other things related to that (such as either not having a system to check up on a person's Professor status, or the P!P not enforcing that system upon the staff).


Will Pokemon take steps to ensure something like this doesn't happen again?
Darn sure they will. However, I don't expect them to come onto a public message board and outline them. Especially since they just learned about this happening.


I sure hope they do! Again, the last thing we need to see is P!P allowing this to happen again; once is a mistake, twice is deliberate. As such, I doubt P!P needs anything like this to happen to get people to question the P!P's commitment to ensure a fun, safe and FAIR play environment. I want to be able to trust them on this, and I'm not going to be the kind of jerk who says "but this issue just makes me question that"... however I will say that I trust that P!P will do the right thing and accept responsibility for this happening.


I just hope that whatever they do doesn't, as a side effect, punish those that work events all year long.
That would be the biggest tragedy.


I agree too. There's no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater; it's obvious that it was only INDIVIDUALS within P!P that screwed up, and although I feel that P!P--the organization, that is--should take responsibility for those individuals actions, I wouldn't expect the P!P to reprimand EVERYONE in P!P for those individuals' actions.

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This is the extent that I would consider the P!P's fault. As such, I HIGHLY disagree that it's the P!P's fault for anything MORE than this, as well as the idea that it's not the P!P's fault at ALL for letting this happen.

And I hope I've made myself perfectly clear on this (albeit in a fairly typically Nick15 long-winded manner). :p
 
Also, before ANY of you question the staff, the person is solely to blame due to the professor core values.
Core Values

Integrity Proved to have none
Honesty Proved to not be
Responsibility Proved to not have any
Professionalism Questionable.
 
Dude: Considering people like SD-Pokemom work their butts off all year round and don't even get to play in the Prof Cup BECAUSE THEY WORK THROUGH IT, I think she's being particularly reserved.

If you feel different, please come up to me at Worlds and I'll express to you myself what she and other professors are holding back.

this is pretty ridiculous, because they "are working their butts off all year" it gives them the right to break the rules? gimme a break, expect what the world would look like if RL worked this way...
 
I don't think that any of us can exactly say we're pleased with this (although it gave me a chuckle that nobody caught this guy the whole time)

But some people are certainly overreacting. I hear suggestions of lawsuits and all I can say is 'what?!?!'

Cheating in a card game tournament is not illegal. Falsely claiming membership in a free program is not illegal. While the fault is clearly his, the legal responsibility ought to fall on OP.

The kid is probably getting a lifetime ban. That ought to suffice. Let him keep his wrongfully earned prize money. Pokémon has no legal claim to it.

The LAST reaction I would expect from something like this is hatred. The guy cheated a few professors out of some prize money. That's unfortunate, but don't call the cops. He certainly isn't the personification of evil people seem to think he is. And do I think he deserves to lose his career over a card game tournament?

If anyone remembers Alexandra Wallace of Asians in the library fame, this guy reminds me of her. A college student who did something dumb, but to which people overreacted; certainly not enough to warrant being kicked out of college imo.
 
haunter, I think your actually looking for the MtG forums, with a few clicks, you'll be their in no time at all. In the mean time, keep your terrible arguments out of our thread, thanks :)
 
Im actually getting scared from everyone's "maybe" punishments about me :/

Maybe you should have thought about it before you decided to join an event that you did not have a right to join. Perhaps you should have thought about that after you won a few games. Just maybe you should have considered it before you stole the prizes - yes, stole, you had no right to them, you also probably should have thought about it before you decided to then proceed to sell the prizes.

You had more than enough changes to back out, and not go through with it. You knew very well what you were doing was wrong, but you kept doing it. You are no better than a petty criminal who robs corner stores as far as I'm concerned.
 
haunter, I think your actually looking for the MtG forums, with a few clicks, you'll be their in no time at all. In the mean time, keep your terrible arguments out of our thread, thanks :)

Or maybe you could counter my "bad" arguments and not act like a knowitallsenior?
 
Also, before ANY of you question the staff, the person is solely to blame due to the professor core values.
Core Values

Integrity Proved to have none
Honesty Proved to not be
Responsibility Proved to not have any
Professionalism Questionable.


He isn't a professor so he doesn't have to uphold "Core values"



Those Core Values should be upheld by everyone: Professor or not. Pokemon TCG Player or not.

That being said, I don't get why people are still posing in this topic, he's been obviously reprimanded, and TPCi has knowledge of this now. No one condones his actions at all, but I don't really feel like he needs more people ragging on him right now just because people think it's open season to insult him.
 
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