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The format hasn't really developed enough to have a true BDIF. We are so use to having a clear BDIF that we hate to use the term for the current decks because they have bad match ups to other popular decks. As far as Tornadus being BDIF, it is just isn't that much of a gap. Overall it has...

Just tech in dragons, they cover donphans weakness to water and pokes with resistance to fighting very well.

1-1 Weezing doesn't work they just catcher koffing.

Have u tried using Stantler as a starter and add more draw instead of the 1-1 tales and other suggested cards to remove?

U get wreck by sand teams, well any of the weather teams...which is the meta now....DD hax is fine and fort is fine just have to surround hax with pokes to support it's sweep. Add bulky pokes to switch in to and take a hit. U won't b swept so easily lol

It's not that simple. Depends on the water deck, though the real good builds of any techable deck have adjusted to match ups. Zekrom shouldn't auto win any real good list that's water. It has too many flaws till catcher comes out. Fun tier 1-2 deck though.

There really isn't best way of playing it, though playing it straight makes the deck too easy and predictable to play against. The meta determines what is it's best partner, just be advised though water isn't talked too much compare to the gyms bdif emboar (lol) but it is at least top 3 best...

Donphan with yanmega and judges could work. Worried about gatr with donphan.

It's like gyrados, doesn't take a lot of skill in game but build is more important then the norm. It's bdif in japan cause they have catcher. In our format its lower tier 1 at best. It's flaws have already been stated, as overhype as emboar/res

You were gonna lose most of your decks in a few months anyway....now the format is actually fun again omg!! What's the point of having these said decks when the format is stale and boring??? Rather have the rotation now for a fun nats then after worlds.

.....does this community complain about everything!?!? Sableye with B&W rules was worth complaining about, it would have ruined the game. Now people complaining about hgss-on format when it was obvious a change had to be made. Yes RR-On would have been fun with Arceus being bdif. Just be...

Soooo slow game = yugioh........are you a troll?? Regs felt like yugioh, slow format opposite lol.

That's about the fastest deck next format if it's hgss-on and it's a difficult combo to pull off. That's asking to have 3 nrg and collector t1. The game overall is much slower, with the faster decks having certain flaws. Without Uxie in the format, that combo is crazy hard to pull off t1...

Just to kill it before anyone overreacts, espy is right the 2 were joking around and even were making fun of darthpika's response afterwards. How espy saw it is how it went down pretty much. Nice run with Steelix though, nice to see SP hate decks all over. Sick if luxchomp lol

I was thinking about this the other day. People continue to complain about the format, though looking back we never really had as many playable decks after states as we do now, since the Team Rocket Return days. To me the worse format post states was easily the PLOX one. God, and yes the players...

play twins.......staraptor and uxie x were both in my list, Combo driven deck, u play stadiums anyways raptor great chomp counter. Pretty solid list i would just like to see raptor in it. I personally would take out ambipom and 1 of your 2 twins for it. Would consider taking out vs seeker for a...

For mirror nidoqueen is awesome. Mewtwo is amazing, considering its dmg output and anti SP. To play a great SP deck and drop Mewtwo with no way of them killing it in some list is priceless. 2 slots to auto win many SP builds is always worth it IMO

Been testing lostgar for awhile like most people. This was my list so maybe it may help others with an idea or two. 25 Pokemon 4-3-2-1-1 Gengar 4 Spiritomb 2-1 Uxie lv X 1-1-1 Vileplume 1 Unown Q 1 Azelf 1 Mewtwo 1 Mewtwo lv X 24 Trainers 4 Pokemon Collector 4 Seeker 3 Twins 3 Bebe's Search 2...

Actually, 1 Uxie is solid. In your initial start u go for 6 after though Uxie can help tremendously. I personally love the grass Arceus

list seems solid. Just wondering though what u do about trainer lock like vileplume and no belts?