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What do you expect the Pokémon TCG to give you?

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Rainbowgym said:
I do, in North America you don't have to pay for tournaments and there are even prizes to earn.

I have a word for that, it's called "spoiled".
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Two homeless men are on the streets. One is complaining about the box he sleeps in and wants something better, like a bed in the local shelter. The other tells him to be quiet, that at least he has a box.

While relatively speaking the second man is correct, seen from the perspective of someone who owns a house it’s clear that both men could have a lot better. This is one example of why it isn’t wrong to ask for more even if you have more than the next guy.

Similarly it’s wrong for a European to say “don’t ask for more because we have it so bad.” It’s much better to say let’s all work together to improve things for everyone.
 
What I expect from the POkemon TCG? Well, to be around people, have something to do and make my wish of traveling to distant places come true.
 
vanderbilt_grad said:
Similarly it’s wrong for a European to say “don’t ask for more because we have it so bad.” It’s much better to say let’s all work together to improve things for everyone.
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Wrong?
I don't think so.
I (as European) am trying to make clear if there is "budget" there are other targets who need them more.

There is given already MORE, last season and the season before.
But some people are not willing to see this. Most of all those who are used to a certain standard.
Because the "standard of winning a States will give you boosterbox" is their standard for years, they are not interested when that standard finally happens to be "standard" in 2009 in other places.
Perhaps rude to say, but because things don't benefit somebody personal, they simple are not even thinking about others who might have had benefit/increase of ......

Because some people feel ripped compared to what THEY got in 2004/2005/2006.
Perhaps those people should be teached a lesson about what the word EVERYONE means.

There is one OP budget, and some regions do already get much more out of it.
That single OP budget is to serve OP over the Globe and not only NA.
From a distribution of funds 90% NA - 10% Rest of the World (2004/2005
We now have something like 70% NA - 40% rest of the World
And yes that is 110% because there has been an increase of prizes/awards, but they were "given" to those who had it "worse".
So tell me were is it wrong to say: don't ask for more , its worse at other places". Sharing is not an attitude I have seen much lately.
 
The american guys also should consider that we in Europe haven't Regionals, so the Pokémon TCG doesn't gave me enough, sure thing.
 
And you will see less desire than ever for sharing with posts that are so dogmatic IMHO Lia.

If we grow OP, perhaps budget worldwide gets improved.

On the other hand what if you take from NA and it leads to a shrinkage of OP which in turn leads to less of an OP budget for the rest of the world?

I'm not saying that Europe shouldn't have more. I just think it's a mistake to assume that the current budget is the end all and be all. Your post actually makes me feel a bit sad and a bit angry. I always get the feeling that you turn discussions like this into and us vs you kind of thing when it really doesn't need to be.
 
afstandopleren said:
Also, they have Grinders closer to home to get an extra shot at Worlds. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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The grinder was 2400 milies (~3860 km) from where I live this year. That's more than twice the distance from Madrid to Amsterdam. No I wouldn't call that "close."

Next year will be pretty much equally bad for everyone to grind in. :thumb:
 
vanderbilt_grad said:
And you will see less desire than ever for sharing with posts that are so dogmatic IMHO Lia.

If we grow OP, perhaps budget worldwide gets improved.

On the other hand what if you take from NA and it leads to a shrinkage of OP which in turn leads to less of an OP budget for the rest of the world?

I'm not saying that Europe shouldn't have more. I just think it's a mistake to assume that the current budget is the end all and be all. Your post actually makes me feel a bit sad and a bit angry. I always get the feeling that you turn discussions like this into and us vs you kind of thing when it really doesn't need to be.
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The Budget is/was improved, but it was also redistributed.
And to be honest, our OP will not shrink to much compared to yours.
We are so used to pay for everything, judge without compensation, TO/PTO without compensation we will find our way, I doubt some other markets will.

And once again, I didn't say the budget is 'the end", I said the budget increased, but also the budget is there for everyone (so not only NA or EU but also Asia, Australia).

I am aware people don't like what I am saying.
But they forget I ALWAYS tried to get things equal for everyone.
I NEVER forget that NA is much bigger and "might" deserve more at some points, but I never got the impression people are aware that ALL international distributors also fund that OP budget.
But "more" is seen by most posters as more prizes per individual, while I like to tend to more events (which means more prizes but not per individual)
I was the first one to disagree with only 8 invites USA Nationals when attendance is above 500 players in a certain group.
I was the ONLY one saying POP should get rid of all those individual Nationals in Europe, but instead should try to get some kind of regionals spread over Europe with invites/trip to Worlds.
I was advocating for "the winner of a NA-Regionals should earn an invite for Worlds".
Who was the one advocating for the 4th place trophee?
Who was the one sticking out her neck and researching the Finland issue?

I tried for many years to get thing equal (or next to) for everyone involved in this game.
And to get things equal you have to compare.
Getting things equal is something different as asking for more.
And it's not bringing 90% - 10% to 95% -15%. but to 60-50%.

But back on topic
What do you expect the Pokémon TCG to give to you.

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A fair and equal OP Worldwide (stating this since 2004)
 
No, because we, the players oh so obviously have no clue about how prizes should never ever be in proportion to the player base. :/
 
Phazon Elite said:
So, one of Pokegym's staff members is saying that one of it's members opinions doesn't matter at all?
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Pretty much looks like it :rolleyes:

I don't play the game because I don't like the way its set up, and I talk about not liking this in hopes to change it. As Phazon said, not playing dosn't invalidate my point, it helps explain it.
 
I expect Judges/Staff to be fair ~_~
after this year with so many sleeves issues,myself and other people,it is just insane.
Cards get used, sleeves get used they aren' t going to be in perfect condition by round 7.

Now I am not talking about what happened to Gino, I find that very unfortunate. But I don't appreciate going into events with brand new sleeves r1-r3 being ok but nooo by r5 my sleeves are bad ~_~

There should be A BNS (Brand New Sleeves) rule. (IDEA)
If a player has Brand New Sleeves at the beginning of the event, and they get slightly damaged during the tournament it is ok. If any issues player must replace sleeve. However that player does not get any penalty ~_~"
 
pat460 said:
I don't play the game because I don't like the way its set up, and I talk about not liking this in hopes to change it. As Phazon said, not playing dosn't invalidate my point, it helps explain it.
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in the end, your opinion is more or less baseless. You don't play this game, what are you basing your opinions on? It sounds more like you're trolling.

DarthPika said:
No, because we, the players oh so obviously have no clue about how prizes should never ever be in proportion to the player base. :/
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I remember OP tried this one time at Nats. Something along the lines of an 8-person tournament getting 3 packs (2 for 1st, 1 for 2nd), and then setting the prize breaks from there. It did not go over well.
Proportional prizes means having advanced knowledge of your attendance. DarthPika, you stand to lose in such an arrangement. Before last year, Maryland's SC attendance was not all that spectacular--it was actually quite average.
 
We Asians get so little, but I'm not complaining. As long as I can play this game with other people that share the same passion. :]

(Oh did I tell you we pay entry fees for every event? :O)
 
I really think people have too much to complain about. I pay about $10 to enter every tournament aside from Nationals and Worlds. For that $10 I get to see my friends, play the game in a competitive enviroment and use my cards, have a day out and even win some prizes. I consider that a great day for just $10. I can usually win 1-2 packs back anyway. My only small query is the BR prizes - 8 IMO is minimum for first and although I would like Europe and the other places in the world given funding for free tournaments - $10 doesn't seem that big a price to pay.
 
Scipio said:
That's another thing I quickly want to touch upon - the elitist attitude a bunch of Masters seem to hold towards the Seniors and below. I know that on average the Masters have a higher skill level, but there's no need to snub the Seniors and Juniors - I'd like to see an average Master who spouts these remarks challenge the better Seniors and Juniors - he might be in for a rude awakening.
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I haven't read any of the responses posted yet, but I 100% agree with this. I'm 17 now, so I'm a Master, but back when I was in the Seniors division it was annoying that my opinion wasn't taken as seriously because of my age. I was nowhere near the best, but when you get towards the best in Top Cut in tournaments you start to see the ripened players. You gotta agree there's quality the higher up you go, you just gotta dig to get there sometimes.

But seriously, don't discredit Senior Tournament results (Or Juniors), I saw a lot of people not even acknowledging Gengar's success at Nats just because it was a Senior that won with it. Not much discussion is held about Juniors, but I'd hope people could give credit to the winning decks at Worlds that were ran by Juniors/Seniors at least.

I still remember some of the remarks I got when discussing the Seniors division, "No one cares about that!" One of my close friends for over 10 years won Midwest Regionals last year ('07 & '08) and not a whole lot of credit was shown because he was a Senior. It never bothered me a whole lot since this is only a game, but it's still annoying that you can't talk without any weight behind ya.
 
DukeFireBird said:
Hm, lets break down all costs then (Only looking at non bonus prizes, only the packs and guaranteed stuff)
2008/2009 season

Battle Roads (Fall). Each battle road gets a box for the players, and 3 VM cards.

Citys. Each City Championship got 3 boxes for the players. Also 3 medals.

State/Province/Territory. Each S/P/T got 7 boxes for the players, $900, and 12 trophies (price unknown)

Regionals. Regionals got 24 boxes for the players, $7,500 in scholarships, 3 trips to Nats (Appx value varies), 12 trophies (price unknown)

Battle Roads (Spring). Each battle Road gets a box for the players, and 3 VM cards

Nationals.
US Nationals gets 54 boxes for the players, $42,000 in scholarships, 12 DSi's ($150 each), 12 trips to worlds (Appx Value varies), 12 trophies (price unknown)
Canada Nationals gets 17 boxes and 24 packs for the players, 12 DSi's, 12 trophies (price unknown), $7,500 in scholarships, 6 trips to worlds (Appx Value Varies)

Worlds. The world championships gets 114 boxes for the players, 96 customised DSi's ($150 base for DSi, more possible for the engraving), $100,500 in scholarships, 12 trips to worlds 2010 (Appx value varies), 9 trophies (price unknown)
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I have numbers for anyone who is interested.

447 Fall BR = 447 boxes, 1341 Victory Medals
450 city = 1350 boxes, 1350 medals
50 s/p/t = 350 boxes, $45,000 in stipends, 600 trophies
68 International SPT = unknown prize support at this time.
15 regionals = 330 boxes, $112,500 in scholarships, 45 trips to Nationals, 180 trophies
??? Special International events = unknown prize support at this time
428 Spring = 428 boxes, 1284 Victory Medals
US Nats = 54 boxes, $42,000 scholarships, 12 DSi's, 12 trips to worlds, 12 trophies
Canada Nats = 17 boxes, 24 packs, 12 DSi's, 12 trophies, $7,500 scholarships, 6 trips to worlds
Worlds = 114 boxes, 96 DSi's (customised), $100,500 scholarships, 12 trips to worlds, 9 trophies

For a grand total of...

3090 boxes, 24 packs, 2625 Victory Medals, 1350 medals, 813 trophies, $45,000 in travel stipends, $262,500 in scholarships, 45 trips to Nats, 30 trips to worlds, 120 DSi's

Care to calculate value here?

POP gives us plenty imo. And I am thankful for them being able to GIVE at least a quarter million a year, If not closer to half a million a year in support for the PLAYERS!!!
 
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Duke, it's really REALLY unfair to include the DSIs and other prizes that most of us can't get.

Great... I get a VM while the other guy get's a DSI... weee isn't that so much fun? -.-
 
How is that unfair? Most of the people that play don't even get the chance to get a Victory Medal, and you're complaining about that. I don't see where the "fairness" clause touches here.
 
You forgot badges, and other giveaway prize items too (pencils, zipper pulls, sleeves, pokeball beachballs, professor items, hats, etc.) And again - shipping for all those products, and judge support as well. Yeah, I'd say a million a year might cover it - if you're lucky.
 
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