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Michel

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posted March 09, 2002 04:26 PM      Profile for Michel   Email Michel    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Hi,

OK, we have less events than last year and only 1 Stadium.
2001 : 9 or 10 qualifiers and no STS.
2002 : 7 qualifiers and 1 STS (as Stadiums are STS and Challenges are qualifiers of the previous structure).

Is it really that less ? I don't think so [Evil Smirk]

Only one Prof event for 15+ ... for 3 in the USA + Origins. In Europe, we may add one in UK and one in Italy. Is it that bad ? I don't think so [Evil Smirk]

We had a lot of 15+ qualifiers last year (15 were for both STS), but it was against the decision of WotC USA.
We want a worldwide Pokemon environment, and we have it, with the bad sides too.
Some US players told me in San Diego that 15+ qualifiers like we've had was not fair compared to what they had in the USA. I think they were right.

The Prof test is in English (but it will be translated soon).
FYI, Jean Marc is not really good in English (your opinion FreddyK ? [Big Grin] ) and he's professor. English is my third language, and I'm professor, ...
Do you think that the information we receive through the 'special professor line' is translated ??? Do you think you'll judge big events in your own language only ?
The fact that the Prof test is not translated is not an excuse. If you do think it is, you'll be like some french players who said they lost because the cards were not in French [ROFL]
Yes, the test is not easy, but WotC has explained why it is so. Not easy, but not impossible ... look at the Prof list : Armenia 1 - Belgium 2 - Germany 2 - Denmark 1 - Spain 1 - Italy 1 - Mexico 1 - Holland 1 - Sweden 1. Are all these non english speaking people super(wo)men ? [Confused]

Harlan ... you all know he's a good friend of mine. He's a great guy for our community, but he was not the person who decided at WotC Europe or WotC USA...
He has decided to leave WotC for personal reasons. It's his own life, and we have to respect his choices, even if we may think it would have been better for us to keep him with us.

I don't want to protect WotC Europe against everything and everyone. Some of you know that if I have something to say I do it [Wink] Remember the first days of Team Europe !
But in this case, I think we don't have to complain again.

We have 7 Gym, 1 Stadium, 4 Gym in UK, 1 Prof event in the UK (GenCon), 2 or 3 Challenges in Italy, 1 Stadium in Italy.
So : 13 or 14 Challenges, 2 Stadiums, 3 Prof events. I wouldn't talk about a lack of big events in Europe ...

We have the Prof Program like in the USA, same advantages, same conditions, and one person who is in charge of the Program in Europe in addition to MTM and the US team.

We have a new team at WotC Europe, and even if they need time to put in place all their hopes and wishes, they're involved and motivated.

We know that it's almost sure that MTM will come to Europe to help at the promotion of the game and at the big events.

We have the support of Keith Strohm concerning the problems in UK and Italy.

What do we want more ? [Angel]

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MasterMazakala

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posted March 09, 2002 04:56 PM      Profile for MasterMazakala   Email MasterMazakala    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I see your point, we haven't done badly. But if we didn't keep asking, do you really think we would have gotten it?

Be honest.

Mazzy

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Michel

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posted March 09, 2002 05:06 PM      Profile for Michel   Email Michel    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I think it was good to ask, like we did for instance last year with Team Europe.

But I don't think to always ask more and more and never be happy with what we have, ... especially if what we have is far from beeing bad, is a good thing.

We want Challenges, we have them ... not enough
We want Stadiums, we have them ... not enough
We want 15+ events, we have them ... not enough
We want the releases in Europe at the same date as in the USA, we have it ... not enough because of local problems
We want the Prof program, we have it, ... not enough

I'm sure that, even if WotC is absolutely against the idea and I do agree with them, if money was given as prizes like in Magic, people would come on the boards and say 'what? 30000 USD for the first place at the Worlds ? ... not enough !' [Dubious]

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MasterMazakala

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posted March 10, 2002 02:39 AM      Profile for MasterMazakala   Email MasterMazakala    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
WHAT! you can win $30,000 for magic in the us? If so, i'm going magic!

mazzy

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Freddy K

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posted March 10, 2002 08:02 AM      Profile for Freddy K   Email Freddy K    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
quote:
Originally posted by Michel:
OK, we have less events than last year and only 1 Stadium.
2001 : 9 or 10 qualifiers and no STS.
2002 : 7 qualifiers and 1 STS (as Stadiums are STS and Challenges are qualifiers of the previous structure).

Is it really that less ? I don't think so [Evil Smirk]

Michel - personally I feel it's no secret with the European Challenge and Stadium events qualifying for 'Worlds' in the US/Hawaii for the younger groups, that the Challenge events taking place in Europe are effectively STSQs and that Amsterdam's Stadium Event is really a bigger STSQ that has 15+ playing too. If Amsterdam 2002 was really an 'STS' then players would be able to qualify from around Europe to compete there - and that's far too perfect to become a reality.

Stadiums are considered 'our new STS' by name only - what's the real difference, I ask, apart from the fact that 15+ are 'allowed' to play there? We must resign ourselves with the fact that we do now have less in Europe, especially as older players.

quote:

Only one Prof event for 15+ ... for 3 in the USA + Origins. In Europe, we may add one in UK and one in Italy. Is it that bad ? I don't think so [Evil Smirk]

May. And Italy is far from confirmed - I wonder with their 15-year-olds-are-banned-from-play-at-all policy (15+ have been reportedly banned from League tournament play over there) how many will turn up for their 'Prof' event? Not a welcoming sign for 15+ at all over there.

Let's keep for the sake of argument WotC-UK, WotC-Italy, WotC-Europe and WotC-US separate. So. How many Prof tournaments?

WotC-US - 4
WotC-UK - 1. Maybe.
WotC-Europe - 1. So far.
WotC-Italy - 1. Maybe.
WotC-France - none (no Challenges either)

One Prof event for over 13 countries in Europe? In Gothenberg, Sweden alone last year we had 606 trainers. Paris - around 400 - and there were about 80+ 'seniors' there if memory holds. Germany totalled around 500. STSQs also in Poland, Switzerland, Greece, Denmark, Israel, Spain, Portugal and more besides.

What about players in Portugal wanting to compete in a 15+ event near them? Or, Greece? They have the right to ask those questions now. We are talking about skewing dramatically the age range of players who can afford to participate in a Premier Pokémon event. Can you see how players between the ages of 15 to 18 lose out?

Agreed, in the STSQs last year thanks to Harlan we had older players competing - and now what do we have fully confirmed? Well, this year it's Amsterdam - which will host one tournament in June whereby it held two that allowed 15+ to play last year. I think it is bad, if you ask me.

quote:

We had a lot of 15+ qualifiers last year (15 were for both STS), but it was against the decision of WotC USA.
We want a worldwide Pokemon environment, and we have it, with the bad sides too.
Some US players told me in San Diego that 15+ qualifiers like we've had was not fair compared to what they had in the USA. I think they were right.

The STS was held in the US - how many people would pay that much to compete in it from Europe if we did not have STSQs last year?

Add to the the question of what competitions would there have been in Europe had there not been STS qualification? I hope everyone sees my point, now.

quote:

The Prof test is in English (but it will be translated soon).
FYI, Jean Marc is not really good in English (your opinion FreddyK ? [Big Grin] ) and he's professor. English is my third language, and I'm professor, ...
Do you think that the information we receive through the 'special professor line' is translated ??? Do you think you'll judge big events in your own language only ?
The fact that the Prof test is not translated is not an excuse. If you do think it is, you'll be like some french players who said they lost because the cards were not in French [ROFL]
Yes, the test is not easy, but WotC has explained why it is so. Not easy, but not impossible ...

Fair point but I really do feel that WotC should honour the fact that Jean-Marc won last year by inviting him to compete anyway in the Prof-event at 'Worlds' anyway. I know I wouldn't deny him that at all.

quote:

look at the Prof list : Armenia 1 - Belgium 2 - Germany 2 - Denmark 1 - Spain 1 - Italy 1 - Mexico 1 - Holland 1 - Sweden 1. Are all these non english speaking people super(wo)men ? [Confused]

More would pick the test up if it was pointed out to them on the WotC-Europe website - that's another post, though.

quote:

I don't want to protect WotC Europe against everything and everyone. Some of you know that if I have something to say I do it [Wink] Remember the first days of Team Europe !
But in this case, I think we don't have to complain again.

We have 7 Gym, 1 Stadium, 4 Gym in UK, 1 Prof event in the UK (GenCon), 2 or 3 Challenges in Italy, 1 Stadium in Italy.
So : 13 or 14 Challenges, 2 Stadiums, 3 Prof events. I wouldn't talk about a lack of big events in Europe ...

Older players will just have to hope that there are indeed four events for them with a prize for World judging. There are only two confirmed so far this year, and even with these events the extent to which we as players are being made aware of them through the website or through contact with the offices and leagues leaves much to be desired.

Yes we did have it all last year with around 14 events for older players but that wasn't such a bad thing was it? And I can't seem to find answers for the question as to why WotC-Europe can't hold 15+ events for a 'National' champion at each of their national 'Challenge' events.

quote:

We have the Prof Program like in the USA, same advantages, same conditions, and one person who is in charge of the Program in Europe in addition to MTM and the US team.

We have a new team at WotC Europe, and even if they need time to put in place all their hopes and wishes, they're involved and motivated.

We know that it's almost sure that MTM will come to Europe to help at the promotion of the game and at the big events.

We have the support of Keith Strohm concerning the problems in UK and Italy.

What do we want more ? [Angel] [/qb]

I hope that you're right, Michel.

-fK [Smile]

[ March 10, 2002, 08:10 AM: Message edited by: Freddy K ]

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MasterMazakala

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posted March 10, 2002 09:23 AM      Profile for MasterMazakala   Email MasterMazakala    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Well sed fred!

But, arguing and contradicting each other isn't really going to get you anywhere. (However fun it may be he he he)

what we really need ios for one of the Master Trainers or sum1 to read through all seven pages and then give their word on what is happening, coz although we know bits of info, we aint got the whole picture yet, not by a longshot.

So come on you MASTER TRAINERS! Take a peek if you think your man enough to solve the problem!

Thanks again,

Mazzy

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Freddy K

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posted March 10, 2002 09:59 AM      Profile for Freddy K   Email Freddy K    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Mazzy -

They are well aware of the situation and have done their bit (see all the UK posts answered on the Prof mailing list that you are on). Do not feed the MTs. [Wink]

We aren't clashing with each other at all. Michel and I have met on the big stage at the WCSTS 2002 and are together in our fight for European Pokémon players. It may get quite 'topical' in parts but we both respect each other incredibly both as players and as people outside the 60-card deck that has brought us together.

What we share is the frustration of seeing so many players across the continent give up this game. So much can still be done - we are there to voice this opinion together. We see things from two different perspectives - neither is compatible 100% (life would be boring if we were all the same!) but both are equally valid in this discussion.

But. I would like to see more WotC representatives partaking in this discussion. WotC-UK have a registered account on these boards and are aware of its existence - but do not post anything. Keith Strohm must press further with WotC-UK at least in making them more open in their policy making decisions on Pokémon. No Neo:Destiny for two weeks now, no Press Release on the Challenge series of events through league or anything and the first event is less than three weeks from now. Tournament Organisers reportedly dumping the responsibility of pre-registration, booking and advertising onto Professors who have volunteered their time and efforts to host the four Challenges.

Things aren't looking good at all, are they ukpokémonpro?

-fK

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Michel

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posted March 10, 2002 11:41 AM      Profile for Michel   Email Michel    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I want to confirm what FreddyK says in his last post [Smile]

I do really appreciate him, as a person and as a player. Believe me, I'm really happy to go to Rainham and meet him again.

We want the same thing ... the best for our community of players.
But sometimes we see things in a slightly different way, even if our goal is absolutely the same [Wink]

I do completely agree with FreddyK on one point anyway ... the lack of communication from the different European Wizards offices.

I'm sure that a minimum of communication would help the community in many ways, and our frustration would be really less important.

I believe that European players don't realize the work done by Wizards simply because we feel alone, without any intervention of European Wizards representatives on the boards.
Harlan did it. WotC Europe told me they would come soon to talk with us, here or/and on Team Europe.
Quite funny that the only contacts we have on the boards are with people from ... WotC USA [Confused]

I say that we feel alone ... we give our opinions, we share our wishes, our hopes for the players in Europe ... but we do that alone.

Yes, we do absolutely need someone from WotC Europe, UK, and Italy coming on the boards.

And do you know what ?
I'm sure it would be interesting for them too to know what players have to say [Angel]

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Werner Jr Quevedo

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posted March 10, 2002 01:15 PM      Profile for Werner Jr Quevedo   Email Werner Jr Quevedo    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Guy, you should add at least 2 italian prof. because i and a my friend did the test right and we are only waiting that wizards italy sends the faxed authorization to wizards usa.Infact the man who should do that will be out of work till thursday.Could someone of you tell me the dates of profs events in italy,in italy there aren't many wizards commercials [NoNoNo]

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posted March 10, 2002 01:33 PM      Profile for Freddy K   Email Freddy K    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
quote:
Originally posted by Werner Jr Quevedo:
Guy, you should add at least 2 italian prof. because i and a my friend did the test right and we are only waiting that wizards italy sends the faxed authorization to wizards usa.Infact the man who should do that will be out of work till thursday.Could someone of you tell me the dates of profs events in italy,in italy there aren't many wizards commercials [NoNoNo]

Congratulations on the tests.

You are in far better a position to get the dates for the Italian Gym & Stadium Challenge dates. Remember, this post needs your input - like, do I know all the answers? Check which country I'm typing this from *cough*WotC-UK*cough*.

[Big Grin]

-fK

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posted March 10, 2002 02:03 PM      Profile for Golduck   Email Golduck    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I just passed the test! FINALLY!!! [Crowd] [Bounce]

Sorry for the smiley spamming... =/

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posted March 10, 2002 02:16 PM      Profile for Freddy K   Email Freddy K    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
That's not on-topic, Golduck!

[NoNoNo]

Hmm.
Congrats anyway.

-fK

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posted March 10, 2002 03:00 PM      Profile for Golduck   Email Golduck    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
It was kinda on topic, because we were discussing the list of professor and how Italy actually had more Professors. Now Norway has 1. This was my 4th try! I got 27 correct. I'll never take this test again in my life, it was a horror. I couldn't sleep for many weeks (not kidding)!

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posted March 11, 2002 10:33 AM      Profile for Michel   Email Michel    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Great Eskil [Dropjaw]

Congratulations from the 2 Belgian Professors [Angel]

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posted March 11, 2002 12:22 PM      Profile for Werner Jr Quevedo   Email Werner Jr Quevedo    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Well that is the situation in a 45000_peolple_town city on the italian cost: neo destiny...they will come [NoNoNo] ,pfficial tournaments like challenge:qualifications for italian championship for...14- [NoNoNo] ,prof informations...said by the wizards employed for tournament "that is not for pokemon, that is a reward program for MAGIC"...i'm happy to live in ITALY [Mad] [Mad] >>>:[
if someone can help me please do it because my only news source is the net because wiz italy lyes in ignorance [NoNoNo]

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posted March 11, 2002 12:30 PM      Profile for Freddy K   Email Freddy K    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
WJQ - my sympathy is with you fully.

I think it's time that someone somewhere sorted WotC-Italy out.

And, where has WotC-France disappeared?

[Confused]

Werner - write a clear constructive email to the Professor Program mailing list on the email they gave to you right at the start. That is how we gained both contact with the TO of the UK, and more useful information about the Challenge series.

Good luck. We are watching with anticipation.

-fK

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posted March 11, 2002 12:46 PM      Profile for Werner Jr Quevedo   Email Werner Jr Quevedo    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
[Frown] Unlucky i'm not a professor yet because wiz italy has to send my authorization to wiz. usa(and i've done the test right 3 times [Mad] )so i don't have prof ail could you tell it me ,thank you thousand [Big Grin]

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First italian judge

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Godzilla i chose you for die!!
Gatr is too boring;magcargo(is going to) rules

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posted March 11, 2002 01:06 PM      Profile for Werner Jr Quevedo   Email Werner Jr Quevedo    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I DID IT, I DID IT, I DID IT!!!!!!
I don't know why but this time i was able to sign me in the page wuth personal datas, i don't know why but i'm a professor!!!!!!!!!!
However i hope Wizards italy will process my authorization because i'm scaried to have done something wrong,i will check(i've done the test right for the 4th time [Evil Smirk] )

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posted March 11, 2002 02:00 PM      Profile for ukpokemonpro   Email ukpokemonpro    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Congrats to our new Prof's well done and I am sure that we will get there with a one world policy on the Challenges and Prof Events we just have to keep pushing at that door.

As for the fudge up in Europe/UK/Italy and France again.. well we certainly learnt nothing from last year did we guys? We need a co-ordinated European Strategy in tune with the US not a fragmented approach as we have now.

I can't help but think that we in the UK are not getting the time invested by WotC UK to grow the game.

There has been no UK website update for 2 years, the league lists a joke and there is still nothing at all on the Challenges in April .. less than a month away.

I can say that my league is growing with a little bit of investment in time and effort. I just wish WotC UK would invest some small effort in supporting them.

It is better this year but only just and could easily be killed by a lack of commitment.

So come on WotC kick some but over here and sort them out again...

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"DMTM peeks in" [Dubious]

DMTM needs to take some time to read all of this.

DMTM admits that he does not really know much about the actual Events that are happening in Europe, but will look into what is going on to the best of his abilities.

If you have any specific questions about the Events here, I can answer them...as long as it is public information.

Otherwise I will read the posts and comment on what I know as I go.

A very much interested in supporting Europe/World Dark Master.

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posted March 11, 2002 02:50 PM      Profile for Freddy K   Email Freddy K    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
quote:
Originally posted by DMTM:
"DMTM peeks in" [Dubious]

DMTM needs to take some time to read all of this.

DMTM admits that he does not really know much about the actual Events that are happening in Europe, but will look into what is going on to the best of his abilities.

If you have any specific questions about the Events here, I can answer them...as long as it is public information.

Otherwise I will read the posts and comment on what I know as I go.

A very much interested in supporting Europe/World Dark Master.

Europe [Love] s DMTM!

-fK

[ March 11, 2002, 02:51 PM: Message edited by: Freddy K ]

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posted March 11, 2002 03:38 PM      Profile for Michel   Email Michel    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Michel and all the European players welcome DMTM on this topic [Angel]

European community will be happy to read Gengar and big donuts master's comments [Wink]

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DMTM,

welcome to our angst ridden postings... guess we are all trying to grow the game here in Europe and get frustrated at the lack of help and co-operation that WotCs various HQ's offer.

Certainly the European Office seems the more postive and switched on and Italy and France perhaps the most recalcitrant.

The UK ... well they're just badly organised and disinterested.

I am running one of the 4 Gym Challenges here in the UK. I am very glad of the prize support but would like to see something on the Website and some notice going out UK wide to the gyms.

My event is less than a month away and still nothing on the website and no notice has gone out to the leagues. We are co-operating as much as possible between ourselves but are getting little but promises from WotC UK.

So far if it wasn't for Team Europes co-operation and this board I wouldn't even have any judges.

Now I am used to organising Tourneys and I am happy to do so but I did think that WotC UK would support us a liitle more than they have so far.

I thank you for your continued championing of this game and I look forward to your intervention on our behalf.

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Hoorah! Finnaly!

Houston, we no longer have a problem...

Or rather it will get solved soon.

Thanks for reading DMTM.

Looking forward to your input and how u is gonna try and sort out the wizards uk team (along with the others that i cant remember)

Thanks again

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*randomly invades the board*

freddy k should be able to guess who I am by the name alone [Smile]

nice to see that there's a genuine movement to get the gaming going in the UK again! uk pokemon pro, i'll happily judge as a prof providing my as level commitments let me. no destiny still in slough!! nightmare!

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